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Civil War II ❴PDF❵ ❤ Civil War II Author Brian Michael Bendis – Capitalsoftworks.co.uk It Is HereThe Marvel comic event everyone will be talking aboutA new Inhuman emerges with the ability to profile the future and the ramifications ripple into every corner of the Marvel Universe Lines It Is HereThe Marvel comic event everyone will be talking aboutA new Inhuman emerges with the ability to profile the future and the ramifications ripple into every corner of the Marvel Universe Lines are drawn bodies fall and the Marvel Universe will be rocked to its very coreCollecting Civil War II FCBD .


10 thoughts on “Civil War II

  1. Anne Anne says:

    35 starsCHOOSE YOUR SIDE But seriously we all know what side we're choosing Sorry CarolOk Well I read this a while back but I couldn't decide how I felt about it I mean on one hand it's a blatant rip off of not only the original Civil War but of The Minority Report storyline So before you even open it up you know there's a great deal of cheese that might have to be scraped off the top of the story to see what sort of meat is lurking underneath Or better yet is that even real meat? Not to mention it seems like Marvel is hell bent on getting rid of every one of their oldest and most popular characters and replacing them with fresh new faces Now this is the comic book world we're talking about and if there is ONE constant in that world it's that no one ever stays dead or gone so there's no good reason to get any panties in a twist Unless of course you actually wanted to read a comic book with one of those characters in it that isMy point is two major players bite the dust and one ends up in what looks like a coma before this particular event is over with Which at first glance basically gave me THREE reasons to roll my eyes at Marvel and their current game plan And I also went into it knowing a lot of my friends were upset by what an asshole Captain Marvel was supposedly portrayed as in this thing Personally I'm not all that fond of the character so this wasn't as upsetting for me as for some of her die hard fans But yeah they weren't exaggerating she's every bit the douchebag in this sucker But even with those problems I thought it was a fun comic book I was interested and fully engaged in what was happening the entire time I was reading And for me most of my complaints about any book comes less from an agreement with the story and from boredom with the writing If it can hold my attention which is admittedly close to a 6 year old kid with ADHD then I have to give that book credit So yeah I guess I can say that I actually liked thisColor me shocked I'm not sure if this is something that other readers go through but when I assume that something will bore me and then it doesn't I get a little happier than I might have if I had been excited to read it Then I wonder if the book was truly good or if it just surpassed my crappy expectations you know?But for whatever reason I thought this was an entertaining event and it looks like it might be kinda fun to watch some of the effects of what happened here ripple out across the Marvel universeAt any rate I won't disagree with you if you thought this was crap because you've got a ton of valid reasons to dislike it But for those of you who haven't read this yet?You may want to give it a shot and see for yourself what all the kerfuffle is about


  2. Sean Gibson Sean Gibson says:

    I was planning to work up an exhaustive diatribe about Civil War 2 as I’m wont to do for mega Marvel crossovers but decided I simply don’t have the energy Also I don’t have particularly strong feelings about the book one way or the other which immediately puts it a cut above most of its recent ilk he said cheekily That said hats off to the creative team for the storytelling gymnastics it took to stretch four issues worth of story to eight issues—it was such a breathtaking feat of poor pacing prestidigitation that I can’t even get that mad at itIt occurred to me at story’s end that the Marvel U is a very very different place now than it was when I was in my comics reading heyday in the 90s uite possibly the worst possible decade in which to have a comics reading heyday or any kind of heyday really and that while disconcerting and troubling for irascibly nostalgic me is a good thing The biggest challenge for comic creators is the lifespan of a comic reader these days—not their actual lifespan which one suspects is shorter than the average due to being fueled primarily by pork rinds and Mountain Dew Code Red but rather the length of time over which they read comics During the 1960s and 70s kids would read comics for a few years and then move onto other pursuits so you could recycle story ideas and didn’t have to worry so much about characters stagnating Now that people read comics all throughout their lives it’s much trickier to tell a story that’s as interesting and meaningful for a twenty year reader of a book as it is for someone picking it up for the first time The Marvel U is now a much diverse and darker place and while the former is a good thing even though I take objection to the pandering way in which it’s been done in a few instances the heart is in the right place and the latter perhaps a necessary concession to a scary world though I generally read four color funnybooks to escape said scariness the bottom line is that change in this instance is both necessary and good even if I’m no longer as engaged with these books and characters as I once was which in and of itself is simply a reflection of the transitioning of life priorities Is this an unnecessarily maudlin and contemplative discussion about a comic where a dude in a robot suit punches a lady who can both absorb and project energy because they’re concerned about what a guy dressed like a spider and who hangs out with a guy named Gold Balls might or might not do? Well yeah But I like to keep you on your toes by knocking you on your asses—sort of like the world’s weirdest contortionist proctologist Excelsior


  3. Sam Quixote Sam Quixote says:

    Marvel does Minority Report in Civil War II as a new Inhuman called Ulysses appears with the ability to see the future The battle lines are drawn between Captain Marvel who wants to use Ulysses to stop future crimes before they happen and Iron Man who doesn’t want anyone arrested for crimes they haven’t committed yet – or might not commit at all But after a disturbing vision of an iconic hero’s murder of another iconic hero how accurate are Ulysses’ visions and is Tony Stark willing to risk his friends’ lives to find out? Are you sitting down? This was a Marvel event book scripted by Brian Michael Bendis that was actually ok? I’m just as surprised especially as I heard nothing but dogshit about this comic but I would honestly rate the first half of Civil War II a solid four maybe even five stars While clearly owing a lot to Minority Report it’s an engagingly written fast paced story with a couple of big name characters getting killed off upping the stakes and making you wonder who else is gonna get Ned Starked Then the story starts going south about halfway through as BendisMarvel Editorial decide to go the usual retarded event route of having tons of brainless uninteresting superhero fights break out suddenly BOO Why do the Guardians of the Galaxy Venom Magik Black Panther and Storm favour Carol’s reasoning for arresting innocents? We don’t know because it’s never established but I guess it was time for a big dumb superhero fight and they needed to make up the numbers Throughout that fight I kept wondering which side of the fence characters were on as we never saw them make the decision one way or the other they just seem to be fighting for the sake of it Awful Like the first Civil War Civil War II’s biggest flaw is in having an obviously “right” and “wrong” side Arresting people for crimes that haven’t happened is of course wrong especially given that Ulysses’ visions aren’t always bang on so there’s really no conundrum over which side the reader is going to take unless that reader is into totalitarianism Also like Mark Millar’s Civil War Bendis demonises the “wrong” side’s leader Captain Marvel to the point where Carol read like a completely different character That’s a really weird move for Marvel to make at this point Carol’s gonna get a LOT of attention very soon once the Avengers Infinity War movies and the Captain Marvel movie come out so why is Bendis depicting her as a fascist in one of Marvel’s most high profile books?? Among the many twists to this tale his character assassination of Carol Danvers was probably the most shocking particularly that scene when she brings in an ordinary person who did nothing and begins barking at them that she’ll make up evidence to convict them if she has to like some punk cop How else is anyone meant to view Carol in that moment other than as a crazed villain drunk on power? And she does nothing to redeem herself later either Once the fighting starts the story never really recovers especially that final battle which was contrived at best – I mean what was Tony hoping to accomplish? There’s also the obligatory sizzle reel of forthcoming Marvel storylines none of which looked appealing But there is another surprise reveal thrown in that was intriguing drawn by Andrea Sorrentino I won’t say anything than that but if you know what title Sorrentino’s been drawing for the last year you’ll get a hint of what I’m talking about And Ulysses’ fate was pretty cool too The art was really the most impressive aspect of Civil War II David Maruez’s enormous talent lends the book a dazzling slick look so that it always looks incredible and the few pages Andrea Sorrentino drew also looked amazing in that breathtakingly melancholic photo realistic style he has with landscapes The moral argument at the heart of Civil War II is a no brainer but Bendis crafted a pretty compelling story that was good for at least half the book and David Maruez made it shine with his first class art It’s not a great book but it’s also not bad either and it’s definitely better than its predecessor Compared to most Marvel events Civil War II is an outlier in being readable and not completely horrible – I’d say it’s worth a look for that alone


  4. Terence Terence says:

    A massive threat appeared in New Yorkbut the superheroes were warned about it by the Inhumans and were ready to defeat itDuring the celebratory after party everyone wants to know how the Inhumans knew the threat was comingand they told themA new Inhuman named Ulysses can see the future and it can change everythingCivil War II really wasn't good I'm currently interested in all things about the Inhumans so I was excited to see they were taking a central role but they really didn't Ulysses could have been from any group of super powered individuals and it wouldn't have made a difference although I'm sure this put the spotlight on the Inhuman characters Not sure that was a good thingSo the conflict centers around Captain Marvel and Iron Man but in truth it was largely about a type of profiling Ulysses visions showed a future but is it ok to arrest someone for something they haven't done Captain Marvel believed Ulysses visions were absolutely true and started arresting and detaining people before they could commit crimes Iron Man wasn't sure and honestly his side of the argument was always a bit confusing I don't really know outside of an early major incident why Tony Stark was fighting the use of the visionsIn the end Civil War II was an undeveloped excuse for the heroes to fight each other


  5. catt ୭̥*゙ catt ୭̥*゙ says:

    GIVE TONY A BREAK JESUS FUCK


  6. Clarissa Clarissa says:

    I honestly hate this story Why do writers like to make Tony suffer so much? They over exaggerate Tony and Carol's personalities just to get them at each other's throatsOkay the 2004 series had its problems but it at least succeeded in giving both sides merit making the loses meaningfulIn this run after it's shown that Ulysses only sees a possible future Carol still seems to wholeheartedly believes precautions should be always be taken Guilty before proven innocent Do you expect me to believe that Carol is as stubborn as Steve is sometimes Bendis? Even Steve here thinks that side is wrong Oh right Hydra Cap but still I don't know a whole lot about Carol but she feels out of character The fact that she is wrong and still pushes this makes the deaths in this series seem pointless It still hurts but what was the point of them dying because of what might have happenedI will say that the artwork is beautiful It hurts so much but I just can't stop looking at it2 stars for story 5 stars for artwork


  7. Natasha Natasha says:

    Before I get into this review I'm going to bring up the Trolly Problem I am sure a lot of you have heard of the Trolly Problem either in a high school or university philosophy class or The Good Place If you haven't here's what this ridiculous in my opinion thought experiment is You're standing by railway tracks You see a trollytram is coming and it's going to hit and kill five people because the breaks are broken You are standing by a lever that will make the tram turn and kill one person instead Do you pull the lever?Why am I bringing up the Trolly Problem? Well that's what Civil War II felt like It brought in moral complexities with just as much moral contrivance and really its own version of the thought experiment Before I go in deep with this review I actually want to compare it to Civil War and how these two arcs are different Civil War at least made senseYou know what I like about Civil War? Both sides had areas to them that made sense that you could side with Steve or Tony but still see merit in where they were coming from I was Team Cap but honestly? Tony had points about training The problem at hand for me was absolute government control and I felt a pay roll would make superheroes no different from cops Then there was also the issue of secret identities I can understand why civilians would want to know who was protecting them but that also puts the families of the heroes at riskCivil War didn't try to bring moral complexities into it and both sides kind of had things you agreed and disagreed with It was balanced Where does Civil War II go wrong?This is chaos and not the good kindAt the very basic surface level I agree with Carol If we're assuming Ulysses' visions do 100% show the future it's not right to knowingly let people die I also didn't agree with Tony when he outright blamed Carol for Rhodey's death or Jen's coma that came as a result of her trying to change the future This goes back to the Trolly Problem; it's a situation where you either allow death to happen or risk death of people who might've not died otherwise This creates a lot of issues Initially Carol's intentions were good She went to Thanos with Absolute Certainty he was going to go after the cosmic cube or whatever he was going after Then the other instances which I'll get to soon have their own issues But since we are on Carol let's talk about her and Tony in this runWhat is this character assassinationI have a lot of uestions mostly why did Tony kidnap Ulysses? That put nothing but a bad taste in my mouth Referring back to Civil War neither Tony nor Cap did anything so outrageously horrendous that you were forced on one side even temporarily Again Civil War worked because it allowed space for how you may feel about certain things When Civil War II isn't relying on characterisation it relies on where you might fall in the Trolly Problem thought experiment People actually use this mess of an arc to prove Carol's actually a villain when really this is a dose of bad characterisation that Tony was put through too Neither of them come out looking good after any of thisWe're gonna accidentally put in deeper philosophical uestions but not really deal with themI don't know if the things I'm going to point out were at all intentional They probably weren't but they were included anyway The only thing that was put in for certain was if it was okay to incarcerate a felon over only thinking about doing a crime That's it Rhodey's death is a weird one to me It was so clearly added to contribute to the conflict Really what were the chances of him being the one to die? What were the chances of any of those who went dying? I get why he was chosen to cause the conflict but I still hate it What does any of what I said have to do with philosophy? Simple military deaths in unjust wars Rhodey volunteered himself to go How is his death any different from people who die in unjust war? Do I think this was the writer's intent? Absolutely not I do however think it does create a layer of moral complexity Now onto are much blatant example Bruce's death Needless to say his death brings in the complexities of assisted suicide This obviously gets messy and included in the conflict of 'well Clint wouldn't have shot him if he wasn't going to Hulk out which wouldn't have happened if we'd never come' Again this gets into the messy grey area but since there was an entire trial around it it brought in philosophy around assisted suicide with what we know of Bruce as a characterit's dark This only goes darker when the publics hatred of Bruce and Hulk come to fruition It's kind of overlooked how the public loves Clint solely for killing Bruce only made apparent in The Fallen Lastly the vision where Miles is shown killing Cap I really don't think it was an accident the Afro Latino character was profiled in a crime he didn't commit I really don't I want to believe the writers are at least that self aware But it's difficult to think they are Because yes profiling is mentioned but not as in detail as it could be or who would be most affected by this new method of catching the bad guys I do kind of feel any chance of talking about this though was thrown out the window when a white woman with what looks like a good job was included It was turned into how Carol was now going to go after anybody not only because they have not shown signs of even potentially committing the crime but because they haven't Could this shit show have been avoided?I really do not get why they just didn't test Ulysses powers and find out how accurate his visions are are I personally think objective decisions could've been made knowing that Tony didn't want to alter history at all sure but he also seemed concerned with the likelihood of them becoming true Carol wanted to prevent bad futures altogether I don't think there could've been a completely civil agreement or anything but all of this could've been avoided In conclusion this arc doesn't exist to me The only good thing that came out of it was the Fallen one shot but that's my Bruce stan bias speakingIf you made it this far don't waste your time on this read a synopsis on the basic events and just skim when other character's runs intersect with this


  8. Chelsea & Chelsea & says:

    This was a case of fantastic art being dragged down by a terrible storyline Maruez is a genius He is definitely on my list of favorite artists He is a large part of the reason I fell in love with Invincible Iron Man 2016 Then Marvel took him off that to draw for this Why???This storyline was a thinly veiled attempt at drawing in moviegoers and a poor attempt at that Anyone who can Wikipedia something knows the plot lines have nothing to do with each other I have my problems with the 2004 Civil War storyline but I've always given it credit for the fact that the conflict was actually a conflict There were grey areas and no one was entirely right although some Cap fans would disagree with me on that This storyline it was clear that Carol was wrong Why? Because she bases her choices on what this Inhuman kid sees and we later find out his predictions are imperfect Don't base your actions on flawed logic It's that simple Anyway the plot line is an Inhuman kid Ulysses can see what he thinks is the future He goes to the Avengers or whatever the hell this group of heroes is calling itself these days I can't keep up any because he sees Thanos coming to earth The futurist Tony is against taking this into account because the future is always changing Carol thinks we should because if there's a chance to stop something bad from happening beforehand why not take it?Why not? Because several people are hurt killed improperly jailed because of what this kid saw I won't spoil all of it but some important people are lost because of this flawed logic and this book does not earn their deaths At all Carol is so far out of character that I was 99% sure it would be revealed that she was actually a Skrull Cap is HYDRA let that sink in The ANAD tinies Kamala Miles and Sam are wondering how they finally became Avengers in time for this mess to ruin it all Same by the way I was really enjoying that ANAD series before this The Inhumans are there I don't really care for them I was interested in the 2011 series but that was before Marvel pushed X Men aside and tried to use the Inhumans to replace them Anyway characterization was all over the place Bendis did this because otherwise Carol's actions don't make any sense The Carol Danvers I know and love would have never behaved this way or done half the things she did in the book Especially not to Tony someone she considered one of her closest friends I have to hope the deaths that take place in this book are fixed later but I doubt it I know which characters Marvel considers valuable enough to keep around and the outcome of this series shows that I have to hope the flawed characterization is fixed because this book made me wonder why I even bother reading new Marvel books Sidenote I see people saying Marvel's book sales are going down the tubes because they keep replacing their heroes with new versions of them and I highly doubt that's the reasons The responses to Riri Kamala Amadeus and Miles have been largely positive I think the problem with Marvel is they keep giving us shit like this These universe wide arcs are ruining my enjoyment of their books because every time I find a new series I like I have to wonder how long it'll stick around before another arc puts everything on hold How many series were pausedendedcancelled after Secret Wars? I put off buying ANAD Avengers and Silk vol 2 because I knew this arc would shove its way into them Stop it Let us enjoy something for a while before making all your books comply with whatever bullshit arc you've come up with now While we're at it stop making super heroes fight each other Civil War Avengers v X Men Inhumans v X Men Civil War II uit it Let them fight villains for a changeLuke Cage said it best in Power Man and Iron Fist 2016 #6This book was a waste of time The ending feels pointless It ruined Carol for me and it took out some of my favorite characters in the process It's not Bendis' best work and it wasted Maruez's talent Don't waste your time


  9. astrea astrea says:

    Actual footage of me after reading thisThe thing is this could have been good It's a complicated issue or at least it could have been and yet it paints it as so black and white everything feels rushed and underdeveloped Unlike the original Civil War comic where I felt torn over who I sided with this one I don't Instead I shake my head at these characters especially Carol and Tony and want to shout HOW ARE YOU BOTH SO FREAKING STUPID? from the rooftops Why did no one take them aside and say oh hey I get where you're both coming from but there IS a happy medium we can work with here Actual rational adults would EASILY have been able to come up with a compromise Are they seriously suggesting that Carol freaking Danvers is that stupid and that pig headed? If Captain America thinks you're being dumb if Stephen Strange is actually involved in this fight and you're on the opposite side you've made a horrendous decision While the cost in this was so much higher than that of the first Civil War I didn't feel any tension I had a few oh no they didn't moments but they didn't last I wasn't thinking OH NO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS EVERYTHING OKAY I NEED TO FINISH THIS WHOLE THING IN ONE SITTING If I wasn't a completionist I probably wouldn't have bothered and I only really read this so I could get background for the new Hulk seriesIt did have good moments But it wasn't enough for me I was looking forward to this instead I was just meh over the whole thing Also sorry X Men Inhumans fight me What they were fighting for in the original Civil War actually meant something what did this mean? Is the Marvel world actually changed now because of what happened in this book? Was this series and it's 85 spin offs anything other than a money grab? I was also confused on some things because sorry Marvel I don't read every single one of your titles Call me when Tony wakes up and Carol gets her brain back I'll be waiting


  10. James DeSantis James DeSantis says:

    HeyI didn't hate this That's something I didn't expect I read Civil War a few years back and didn't particularly enjoy it much So I figured 2 which was just a cash grab for the movie alongside it would be terrible I thought this had some neat ideas some great moments but a pretty shitty finisher What I liked The art The art is a fucking 5 out of 5 It's so smooth and nice looking Never have fights looked so slick and easy I also love mostly everyone's design in here Also the idea of the story having a future that COULD help or make it worse was interesting I actually saw sides to both and would find it difficult to figure out which side to choose So the first few issues built up some pretty interesting discussions and choices Also thought the moment with Cap and Miles was really well done especially when you know what Cap is really doing behind the scenes What I didn't like That Carol was written like a evil bitch who had no control Carol is a smart character she was written stupid here I even expect a sudden outburst of anger but then when you have time to reflect and know what went wrong and push even further it makes no sense Also Tony is just a prick who does stupid shit sometimes in here He's supposed to be smart calculated Instead he's rash and dumb at times and written to close to dumbness for my liking Also the ending was anti climatic and felt empty Like none of this should have happened Which is a shame because first few issues are interesting I didn't find this terrible just down the line meh It had great moments stupid moments mix it together and you get meh or just okay So for that I give it a 25 Bumping it to 3 just because I fucking love the art Hoping Secret Empire is better and from what I read so far it will be


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10 thoughts on “Civil War II

  1. Anne Anne says:

    35 starsCHOOSE YOUR SIDE But seriously we all know what side we're choosing Sorry CarolOk Well I read this a while back but I couldn't decide how I felt about it I mean on one hand it's a blatant rip off of not only the original Civil War but of The Minority Report storyline So before you even open it up you know there's a great deal of cheese that might have to be scraped off the top of the story to see what sort of meat is lurking underneath Or better yet is that even real meat? Not to mention it seems like Marvel is hell bent on getting rid of every one of their oldest and most popular characters and replacing them with fresh new faces Now this is the comic book world we're talking about and if there is ONE constant in that world it's that no one ever stays dead or gone so there's no good reason to get any panties in a twist Unless of course you actually wanted to read a comic book with one of those characters in it that isMy point is two major players bite the dust and one ends up in what looks like a coma before this particular event is over with Which at first glance basically gave me THREE reasons to roll my eyes at Marvel and their current game plan And I also went into it knowing a lot of my friends were upset by what an asshole Captain Marvel was supposedly portrayed as in this thing Personally I'm not all that fond of the character so this wasn't as upsetting for me as for some of her die hard fans But yeah they weren't exaggerating she's every bit the douchebag in this sucker But even with those problems I thought it was a fun comic book I was interested and fully engaged in what was happening the entire time I was reading And for me most of my complaints about any book comes less from an agreement with the story and from boredom with the writing If it can hold my attention which is admittedly close to a 6 year old kid with ADHD then I have to give that book credit So yeah I guess I can say that I actually liked thisColor me shocked I'm not sure if this is something that other readers go through but when I assume that something will bore me and then it doesn't I get a little happier than I might have if I had been excited to read it Then I wonder if the book was truly good or if it just surpassed my crappy expectations you know?But for whatever reason I thought this was an entertaining event and it looks like it might be kinda fun to watch some of the effects of what happened here ripple out across the Marvel universeAt any rate I won't disagree with you if you thought this was crap because you've got a ton of valid reasons to dislike it But for those of you who haven't read this yet?You may want to give it a shot and see for yourself what all the kerfuffle is about

  2. Sean Gibson Sean Gibson says:

    I was planning to work up an exhaustive diatribe about Civil War 2 as I’m wont to do for mega Marvel crossovers but decided I simply don’t have the energy Also I don’t have particularly strong feelings about the book one way or the other which immediately puts it a cut above most of its recent ilk he said cheekily That said hats off to the creative team for the storytelling gymnastics it took to stretch four issues worth of story to eight issues—it was such a breathtaking feat of poor pacing prestidigitation that I can’t even get that mad at itIt occurred to me at story’s end that the Marvel U is a very very different place now than it was when I was in my comics reading heyday in the 90s uite possibly the worst possible decade in which to have a comics reading heyday or any kind of heyday really and that while disconcerting and troubling for irascibly nostalgic me is a good thing The biggest challenge for comic creators is the lifespan of a comic reader these days—not their actual lifespan which one suspects is shorter than the average due to being fueled primarily by pork rinds and Mountain Dew Code Red but rather the length of time over which they read comics During the 1960s and 70s kids would read comics for a few years and then move onto other pursuits so you could recycle story ideas and didn’t have to worry so much about characters stagnating Now that people read comics all throughout their lives it’s much trickier to tell a story that’s as interesting and meaningful for a twenty year reader of a book as it is for someone picking it up for the first time The Marvel U is now a much diverse and darker place and while the former is a good thing even though I take objection to the pandering way in which it’s been done in a few instances the heart is in the right place and the latter perhaps a necessary concession to a scary world though I generally read four color funnybooks to escape said scariness the bottom line is that change in this instance is both necessary and good even if I’m no longer as engaged with these books and characters as I once was which in and of itself is simply a reflection of the transitioning of life priorities Is this an unnecessarily maudlin and contemplative discussion about a comic where a dude in a robot suit punches a lady who can both absorb and project energy because they’re concerned about what a guy dressed like a spider and who hangs out with a guy named Gold Balls might or might not do? Well yeah But I like to keep you on your toes by knocking you on your asses—sort of like the world’s weirdest contortionist proctologist Excelsior

  3. Sam Quixote Sam Quixote says:

    Marvel does Minority Report in Civil War II as a new Inhuman called Ulysses appears with the ability to see the future The battle lines are drawn between Captain Marvel who wants to use Ulysses to stop future crimes before they happen and Iron Man who doesn’t want anyone arrested for crimes they haven’t committed yet – or might not commit at all But after a disturbing vision of an iconic hero’s murder of another iconic hero how accurate are Ulysses’ visions and is Tony Stark willing to risk his friends’ lives to find out? Are you sitting down? This was a Marvel event book scripted by Brian Michael Bendis that was actually ok? I’m just as surprised especially as I heard nothing but dogshit about this comic but I would honestly rate the first half of Civil War II a solid four maybe even five stars While clearly owing a lot to Minority Report it’s an engagingly written fast paced story with a couple of big name characters getting killed off upping the stakes and making you wonder who else is gonna get Ned Starked Then the story starts going south about halfway through as BendisMarvel Editorial decide to go the usual retarded event route of having tons of brainless uninteresting superhero fights break out suddenly BOO Why do the Guardians of the Galaxy Venom Magik Black Panther and Storm favour Carol’s reasoning for arresting innocents? We don’t know because it’s never established but I guess it was time for a big dumb superhero fight and they needed to make up the numbers Throughout that fight I kept wondering which side of the fence characters were on as we never saw them make the decision one way or the other they just seem to be fighting for the sake of it Awful Like the first Civil War Civil War II’s biggest flaw is in having an obviously “right” and “wrong” side Arresting people for crimes that haven’t happened is of course wrong especially given that Ulysses’ visions aren’t always bang on so there’s really no conundrum over which side the reader is going to take unless that reader is into totalitarianism Also like Mark Millar’s Civil War Bendis demonises the “wrong” side’s leader Captain Marvel to the point where Carol read like a completely different character That’s a really weird move for Marvel to make at this point Carol’s gonna get a LOT of attention very soon once the Avengers Infinity War movies and the Captain Marvel movie come out so why is Bendis depicting her as a fascist in one of Marvel’s most high profile books?? Among the many twists to this tale his character assassination of Carol Danvers was probably the most shocking particularly that scene when she brings in an ordinary person who did nothing and begins barking at them that she’ll make up evidence to convict them if she has to like some punk cop How else is anyone meant to view Carol in that moment other than as a crazed villain drunk on power? And she does nothing to redeem herself later either Once the fighting starts the story never really recovers especially that final battle which was contrived at best – I mean what was Tony hoping to accomplish? There’s also the obligatory sizzle reel of forthcoming Marvel storylines none of which looked appealing But there is another surprise reveal thrown in that was intriguing drawn by Andrea Sorrentino I won’t say anything than that but if you know what title Sorrentino’s been drawing for the last year you’ll get a hint of what I’m talking about And Ulysses’ fate was pretty cool too The art was really the most impressive aspect of Civil War II David Maruez’s enormous talent lends the book a dazzling slick look so that it always looks incredible and the few pages Andrea Sorrentino drew also looked amazing in that breathtakingly melancholic photo realistic style he has with landscapes The moral argument at the heart of Civil War II is a no brainer but Bendis crafted a pretty compelling story that was good for at least half the book and David Maruez made it shine with his first class art It’s not a great book but it’s also not bad either and it’s definitely better than its predecessor Compared to most Marvel events Civil War II is an outlier in being readable and not completely horrible – I’d say it’s worth a look for that alone

  4. Terence Terence says:

    A massive threat appeared in New Yorkbut the superheroes were warned about it by the Inhumans and were ready to defeat itDuring the celebratory after party everyone wants to know how the Inhumans knew the threat was comingand they told themA new Inhuman named Ulysses can see the future and it can change everythingCivil War II really wasn't good I'm currently interested in all things about the Inhumans so I was excited to see they were taking a central role but they really didn't Ulysses could have been from any group of super powered individuals and it wouldn't have made a difference although I'm sure this put the spotlight on the Inhuman characters Not sure that was a good thingSo the conflict centers around Captain Marvel and Iron Man but in truth it was largely about a type of profiling Ulysses visions showed a future but is it ok to arrest someone for something they haven't done Captain Marvel believed Ulysses visions were absolutely true and started arresting and detaining people before they could commit crimes Iron Man wasn't sure and honestly his side of the argument was always a bit confusing I don't really know outside of an early major incident why Tony Stark was fighting the use of the visionsIn the end Civil War II was an undeveloped excuse for the heroes to fight each other

  5. catt ୭̥*゙ catt ୭̥*゙ says:

    GIVE TONY A BREAK JESUS FUCK

  6. Clarissa Clarissa says:

    I honestly hate this story Why do writers like to make Tony suffer so much? They over exaggerate Tony and Carol's personalities just to get them at each other's throatsOkay the 2004 series had its problems but it at least succeeded in giving both sides merit making the loses meaningfulIn this run after it's shown that Ulysses only sees a possible future Carol still seems to wholeheartedly believes precautions should be always be taken Guilty before proven innocent Do you expect me to believe that Carol is as stubborn as Steve is sometimes Bendis? Even Steve here thinks that side is wrong Oh right Hydra Cap but still I don't know a whole lot about Carol but she feels out of character The fact that she is wrong and still pushes this makes the deaths in this series seem pointless It still hurts but what was the point of them dying because of what might have happenedI will say that the artwork is beautiful It hurts so much but I just can't stop looking at it2 stars for story 5 stars for artwork

  7. Natasha Natasha says:

    Before I get into this review I'm going to bring up the Trolly Problem I am sure a lot of you have heard of the Trolly Problem either in a high school or university philosophy class or The Good Place If you haven't here's what this ridiculous in my opinion thought experiment is You're standing by railway tracks You see a trollytram is coming and it's going to hit and kill five people because the breaks are broken You are standing by a lever that will make the tram turn and kill one person instead Do you pull the lever?Why am I bringing up the Trolly Problem? Well that's what Civil War II felt like It brought in moral complexities with just as much moral contrivance and really its own version of the thought experiment Before I go in deep with this review I actually want to compare it to Civil War and how these two arcs are different Civil War at least made senseYou know what I like about Civil War? Both sides had areas to them that made sense that you could side with Steve or Tony but still see merit in where they were coming from I was Team Cap but honestly? Tony had points about training The problem at hand for me was absolute government control and I felt a pay roll would make superheroes no different from cops Then there was also the issue of secret identities I can understand why civilians would want to know who was protecting them but that also puts the families of the heroes at riskCivil War didn't try to bring moral complexities into it and both sides kind of had things you agreed and disagreed with It was balanced Where does Civil War II go wrong?This is chaos and not the good kindAt the very basic surface level I agree with Carol If we're assuming Ulysses' visions do 100% show the future it's not right to knowingly let people die I also didn't agree with Tony when he outright blamed Carol for Rhodey's death or Jen's coma that came as a result of her trying to change the future This goes back to the Trolly Problem; it's a situation where you either allow death to happen or risk death of people who might've not died otherwise This creates a lot of issues Initially Carol's intentions were good She went to Thanos with Absolute Certainty he was going to go after the cosmic cube or whatever he was going after Then the other instances which I'll get to soon have their own issues But since we are on Carol let's talk about her and Tony in this runWhat is this character assassinationI have a lot of uestions mostly why did Tony kidnap Ulysses? That put nothing but a bad taste in my mouth Referring back to Civil War neither Tony nor Cap did anything so outrageously horrendous that you were forced on one side even temporarily Again Civil War worked because it allowed space for how you may feel about certain things When Civil War II isn't relying on characterisation it relies on where you might fall in the Trolly Problem thought experiment People actually use this mess of an arc to prove Carol's actually a villain when really this is a dose of bad characterisation that Tony was put through too Neither of them come out looking good after any of thisWe're gonna accidentally put in deeper philosophical uestions but not really deal with themI don't know if the things I'm going to point out were at all intentional They probably weren't but they were included anyway The only thing that was put in for certain was if it was okay to incarcerate a felon over only thinking about doing a crime That's it Rhodey's death is a weird one to me It was so clearly added to contribute to the conflict Really what were the chances of him being the one to die? What were the chances of any of those who went dying? I get why he was chosen to cause the conflict but I still hate it What does any of what I said have to do with philosophy? Simple military deaths in unjust wars Rhodey volunteered himself to go How is his death any different from people who die in unjust war? Do I think this was the writer's intent? Absolutely not I do however think it does create a layer of moral complexity Now onto are much blatant example Bruce's death Needless to say his death brings in the complexities of assisted suicide This obviously gets messy and included in the conflict of 'well Clint wouldn't have shot him if he wasn't going to Hulk out which wouldn't have happened if we'd never come' Again this gets into the messy grey area but since there was an entire trial around it it brought in philosophy around assisted suicide with what we know of Bruce as a characterit's dark This only goes darker when the publics hatred of Bruce and Hulk come to fruition It's kind of overlooked how the public loves Clint solely for killing Bruce only made apparent in The Fallen Lastly the vision where Miles is shown killing Cap I really don't think it was an accident the Afro Latino character was profiled in a crime he didn't commit I really don't I want to believe the writers are at least that self aware But it's difficult to think they are Because yes profiling is mentioned but not as in detail as it could be or who would be most affected by this new method of catching the bad guys I do kind of feel any chance of talking about this though was thrown out the window when a white woman with what looks like a good job was included It was turned into how Carol was now going to go after anybody not only because they have not shown signs of even potentially committing the crime but because they haven't Could this shit show have been avoided?I really do not get why they just didn't test Ulysses powers and find out how accurate his visions are are I personally think objective decisions could've been made knowing that Tony didn't want to alter history at all sure but he also seemed concerned with the likelihood of them becoming true Carol wanted to prevent bad futures altogether I don't think there could've been a completely civil agreement or anything but all of this could've been avoided In conclusion this arc doesn't exist to me The only good thing that came out of it was the Fallen one shot but that's my Bruce stan bias speakingIf you made it this far don't waste your time on this read a synopsis on the basic events and just skim when other character's runs intersect with this

  8. Chelsea & Chelsea & says:

    This was a case of fantastic art being dragged down by a terrible storyline Maruez is a genius He is definitely on my list of favorite artists He is a large part of the reason I fell in love with Invincible Iron Man 2016 Then Marvel took him off that to draw for this Why???This storyline was a thinly veiled attempt at drawing in moviegoers and a poor attempt at that Anyone who can Wikipedia something knows the plot lines have nothing to do with each other I have my problems with the 2004 Civil War storyline but I've always given it credit for the fact that the conflict was actually a conflict There were grey areas and no one was entirely right although some Cap fans would disagree with me on that This storyline it was clear that Carol was wrong Why? Because she bases her choices on what this Inhuman kid sees and we later find out his predictions are imperfect Don't base your actions on flawed logic It's that simple Anyway the plot line is an Inhuman kid Ulysses can see what he thinks is the future He goes to the Avengers or whatever the hell this group of heroes is calling itself these days I can't keep up any because he sees Thanos coming to earth The futurist Tony is against taking this into account because the future is always changing Carol thinks we should because if there's a chance to stop something bad from happening beforehand why not take it?Why not? Because several people are hurt killed improperly jailed because of what this kid saw I won't spoil all of it but some important people are lost because of this flawed logic and this book does not earn their deaths At all Carol is so far out of character that I was 99% sure it would be revealed that she was actually a Skrull Cap is HYDRA let that sink in The ANAD tinies Kamala Miles and Sam are wondering how they finally became Avengers in time for this mess to ruin it all Same by the way I was really enjoying that ANAD series before this The Inhumans are there I don't really care for them I was interested in the 2011 series but that was before Marvel pushed X Men aside and tried to use the Inhumans to replace them Anyway characterization was all over the place Bendis did this because otherwise Carol's actions don't make any sense The Carol Danvers I know and love would have never behaved this way or done half the things she did in the book Especially not to Tony someone she considered one of her closest friends I have to hope the deaths that take place in this book are fixed later but I doubt it I know which characters Marvel considers valuable enough to keep around and the outcome of this series shows that I have to hope the flawed characterization is fixed because this book made me wonder why I even bother reading new Marvel books Sidenote I see people saying Marvel's book sales are going down the tubes because they keep replacing their heroes with new versions of them and I highly doubt that's the reasons The responses to Riri Kamala Amadeus and Miles have been largely positive I think the problem with Marvel is they keep giving us shit like this These universe wide arcs are ruining my enjoyment of their books because every time I find a new series I like I have to wonder how long it'll stick around before another arc puts everything on hold How many series were pausedendedcancelled after Secret Wars? I put off buying ANAD Avengers and Silk vol 2 because I knew this arc would shove its way into them Stop it Let us enjoy something for a while before making all your books comply with whatever bullshit arc you've come up with now While we're at it stop making super heroes fight each other Civil War Avengers v X Men Inhumans v X Men Civil War II uit it Let them fight villains for a changeLuke Cage said it best in Power Man and Iron Fist 2016 #6This book was a waste of time The ending feels pointless It ruined Carol for me and it took out some of my favorite characters in the process It's not Bendis' best work and it wasted Maruez's talent Don't waste your time

  9. astrea astrea says:

    Actual footage of me after reading thisThe thing is this could have been good It's a complicated issue or at least it could have been and yet it paints it as so black and white everything feels rushed and underdeveloped Unlike the original Civil War comic where I felt torn over who I sided with this one I don't Instead I shake my head at these characters especially Carol and Tony and want to shout HOW ARE YOU BOTH SO FREAKING STUPID? from the rooftops Why did no one take them aside and say oh hey I get where you're both coming from but there IS a happy medium we can work with here Actual rational adults would EASILY have been able to come up with a compromise Are they seriously suggesting that Carol freaking Danvers is that stupid and that pig headed? If Captain America thinks you're being dumb if Stephen Strange is actually involved in this fight and you're on the opposite side you've made a horrendous decision While the cost in this was so much higher than that of the first Civil War I didn't feel any tension I had a few oh no they didn't moments but they didn't last I wasn't thinking OH NO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS EVERYTHING OKAY I NEED TO FINISH THIS WHOLE THING IN ONE SITTING If I wasn't a completionist I probably wouldn't have bothered and I only really read this so I could get background for the new Hulk seriesIt did have good moments But it wasn't enough for me I was looking forward to this instead I was just meh over the whole thing Also sorry X Men Inhumans fight me What they were fighting for in the original Civil War actually meant something what did this mean? Is the Marvel world actually changed now because of what happened in this book? Was this series and it's 85 spin offs anything other than a money grab? I was also confused on some things because sorry Marvel I don't read every single one of your titles Call me when Tony wakes up and Carol gets her brain back I'll be waiting

  10. James DeSantis James DeSantis says:

    HeyI didn't hate this That's something I didn't expect I read Civil War a few years back and didn't particularly enjoy it much So I figured 2 which was just a cash grab for the movie alongside it would be terrible I thought this had some neat ideas some great moments but a pretty shitty finisher What I liked The art The art is a fucking 5 out of 5 It's so smooth and nice looking Never have fights looked so slick and easy I also love mostly everyone's design in here Also the idea of the story having a future that COULD help or make it worse was interesting I actually saw sides to both and would find it difficult to figure out which side to choose So the first few issues built up some pretty interesting discussions and choices Also thought the moment with Cap and Miles was really well done especially when you know what Cap is really doing behind the scenes What I didn't like That Carol was written like a evil bitch who had no control Carol is a smart character she was written stupid here I even expect a sudden outburst of anger but then when you have time to reflect and know what went wrong and push even further it makes no sense Also Tony is just a prick who does stupid shit sometimes in here He's supposed to be smart calculated Instead he's rash and dumb at times and written to close to dumbness for my liking Also the ending was anti climatic and felt empty Like none of this should have happened Which is a shame because first few issues are interesting I didn't find this terrible just down the line meh It had great moments stupid moments mix it together and you get meh or just okay So for that I give it a 25 Bumping it to 3 just because I fucking love the art Hoping Secret Empire is better and from what I read so far it will be

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