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Oppdageren ❴Reading❵ ➿ Oppdageren Author Jan Kjærstad – Capitalsoftworks.co.uk Jonas Wergeland has served his sentence for the murder of his wife Margrete He is a free man again but will he ever be free of his pastThe third volume of Jan Kjærstad’s award winning trilogy finds Jonas Wergeland has served his sentence for the murder of his wife Margrete He is a free man again but will he ever be free of his pastThe third volume of Jan Kjærstad’s award winning trilogy finds Jonas aboard the Voyager a small boat exploring the reaches of the great Sognefjord in Western Norway Also on board are four young people engaged in a multi media project to chart all aspects of the fjord – its geography people and history But like the space probe the boat is named for Jonas’s personal journey of discovery reaches far beyond the usual confines of time or space With all the breathtaking prowess of a master juggler Jan Kjærstad throws episode after episode from Jonas Wergeland’s life into the air and holds them suspended like planets in the solar system And the reader once again is drawn into Wergeland’s universe and taken on a journey – this time with his daughter as guide – to discover finally the truth about his life and what led to the death of his wife.


10 thoughts on “Oppdageren

  1. karen karen says:

    as the kids say OMFGi am sitting here stunned BY A BOOK it's like all of a sudden everything in my life makes sense although it was probably a good idea to take a break to read under the dome right in the middle of this trilogy i was uite frankly getting a little sick of jonas wergeland and the pause was useful in giving me some much needed space from his claustrophobic life plus the contrast certainly did not hurt kjaerstad it's just that jonas wergeland is a character packed to the tits sometimes with tits with anecdotes and events and prophecies and weighted moments and perfectly stated sentences and adoring masses it was just too full of stuff and its not that i want to read about his downtime but it is truly exhausting to read so much thick and meaningful prose where every sentence has weight and resonance it is wonderful but it makes the head spin with excitement and emotional overload a little goes a long wayand by now in the trilogy you have become accustomed to the flow of ideas; one story leaching into another in a concrete than stream of consciousness but still unexpected association kind of way but oh god so many parts of this book the longest most woefully nostalgic kiss of all time margrete's relationship to reading and books as objects missed opportunities samarkand so many moments of yes discoverybut i still need someone to tackle writing that chronology even with all the contradictions which are necessary because of the nature of these three books maybe some kind of three pronged timeline just to see it all at once this is very packed storytelling like proust but less willfully verbose less languid and overtly erotic at the end i was creating distractions mostly involving goodreadscomjust so i wouldn't get to the end too uickly there are so many bookmarks in this copy so many uotes i was going to transfer into this review but i just can't because again and i seriously regret what i am about to say this book needs to be discovered by the reader it is the culmination of two book's worth of reading that becomes mostly crystallized in this concluding work and it is so fucking worth it there are some jaw droppingly good moments in this third one this is an astonishing book i want to copy pages 230 232 and just read them every day for examplei started typing every uote i liked out onto this but they lose their impact when taken out of the whole no one goes to the museum to look at a dinosaur's shin bonea seriously good book will flash with energy that reminds you of other things you like; layers and layers of association and self reflection and this one for me had moments of following the movie infinite jest and one big time tessangel clare moment even though tess is my least favorite hardy parts of it still have his genius and the echo in this book is heartbreaking and perfect and made me wish books could make me cry and i don't know what greg is talking about but buddha is a character with as much screen time as johnny horne in twin peaks or michael k williams in the hulk okay that's not fair michael k williams in miracle at st anna sheesh i kept wondering if i was missing something but no i am noti am just wagging my little doggy tail right now and not really saying anything is it okay to just use review space to gush?i have nothing to say about this book because it says everythingplease have your own trilogy monthcome to my blog


  2. Manny Manny says:

    Oppdageren The Discoverer in English is the third and concluding volume of the trilogy that starts with Forføreren Since the three volumes form a tightly knit whole it makes most sense to review the whole series which is one of the most powerful moving original novels I've read in years It's staggeringly inventive and daring and it's not just displaying post modernist cleverness for its own sake uite the contrary The book has a burning desire to reach out to you touch you and change your life forever It's very rare to find something like thisThe rest of this review is available elsewhere the location cannot be given for Goodreads policy reasons After rereading the seriesIt is a masterpiece The beginning is mysterious and enticing; the middle difficult and painful; the ending extraordinarily powerful and movingA recurring image which is presented in many different forms is Māyā the veil of illusion At one point Jonas who is applying to architecture school gives a presentation on his favorite part of Oslo He arranges it in three semi transparent layers The outermost one shows the town as it is today Behind it and clearly visible you can see the town as he remembers it before it was brutally remodelled in the 60s And if you look carefully you can see just a hint of the third layer a strange temple like building uite unlike anything in the real OsloAs usual the novel is referring to itself Every book has a surface and most worthwhile books have something underneath that surface which you can see if you're paying any attention But under both of these one can sometimes catch a glimpse of the true book the book the author wanted to write but was unable to realise due to his mortal limitations The true version of this book is visible with uite unusual clarity It's a trick but it's a wonderful awe inspiring trickTo conclude for other readers who wondered what they looked like en sitronsommerfugl og en dagpåfugløye en admiral og en neslesommerfugl After the third readingWell no doubt about the masterpiece part Some uestions which that so far hypothetical person who's going to write the first serious critical study of the Jonas Wergeland trilogy might want to think aboutview spoiler Just as in Dante there's clearly a deep plan He throws out innumerable hints Jonas's interest in architecture the seuence in book 1 where the NN women talk about the relationships between the different episodes of Å tenke stort the seuence near the end of book 3 where Kristin plays all the episodes of the series simultaneously But what is the plan? What is the relationship with Dante? It seems impossible that it can be as simple as one book in Dante corresponding to one book in Kjærstad For example volume 3's core structure must be modelled on the Paradiso; both the chapter headings which mark the progress of the Voyager spaceship through the solar system and the movement towards increasingly lofty and abstract themes But at the same time there are some episodes which can't belong in the Paradiso; for example the lyrical seuence with the Garden of Eden must be from the Purgatario and in general Jonas is gradually purging his sin Is it possible that one book of Kjærstad corresponds to two books of Dante? In which case book 1 must be ParadisoInferno book 2 InfernoPurgatorio book 3 PurgatorioParadiso It seems to fit But what is the point of this unusual arrangement? As so often I feel I can almost identify it but not uite What do the beautiful central images of book 3 mean? They're even harder to interpret than the ones from the earlier books The Voyager spaceship and its golden disc The airplane with the red markings on its wings Sognefjorden The empty room or landscape with the tiny figure that gives it its meaning The skipping rope The widening circle of ripples The deck chair on the beach The buried city The string of pearls The crystal prisms The four butterflies hide spoiler


  3. Greg Greg says:

    Back in early summer I started reading this trilogy In my head I had a perfect plan I gave each of the first two books roughly a week to be read and when I finished the second book the third one would be arriving in the store I'd finish The Conuerer and that day or maybe the next copies of The Discoverer would rise up from the stores basement I'd buy the book and read it immediately Like all perfect plans this one went to shit The Discoverer was delayed in coming out by a few months so by the time it did come out the details of the first two books were a little hazy On the plus side Karen got the dude from Open Letter to send me a free copy of the book after she told him how much I was looking forward to it In my review for The Seducer I mentioned Henryk Górecki's Symphony No 3 Symphony of Sorrowful Songs I'm mentioning it again because the structure of the narrative constantly reminds me the first 8 minutes of that musical work Both are composed of beautifully simple strands that seamlessly weave in and out of each other brining a particular theme or story to the forefront before allowing it to be replaced by another In themes from the book it's like juggling or the patterns of an oriental rug but I like my Górecki analogy better What to say about a book that you don't want to give any details away about?Sadly I live my life for moments like reading this series of books I could say that I read constantly and am always looking for new books and authors that I haven't heard of yet hoping to find books like this one The ones that are 'throw yourself down the stairs' great There is no real way to go out and just read these books though and miss all the chaff It's all the chaff that helps make the great books so great I don't know if that makes any sense In another musical analogy from my life if I hadn't spent so much time listening to shitty heavy metal music and groaning about the awful pretentiousness of bands like Led Zepplin and other 'classic rock' bands the effect of putting the Ramones Blitzkrieg Bop on for the first time wouldn't have been as life shattering as it was This book is nothing like the Ramones and now I'm thinking that I might be belittling the book by even mentioning them here In my life some other book would be like the Ramones and this along with books like Magnetic Fields and Infinite Jest would be some later band or type of music that I would have never gotten to if I had stayed stuck in some degenerate phase and now almost twenty years later still only listened to Metallica and Slayer Returning to the idea at the start of the last paragraph I spend lots of time in my life on a search for something as good as this to discover something great and then immediately afterwards the search goes on I've done this with music and with books and ideas I think that it's some kind of sick compulsion and it's not necessarily healthy When I think of how much time is given to this pursuit the hours that turn into days and months and probably eventually into years of my life with my nose in various books I know that I could accomplish so much if I could redirect the reading energy into something else; something tangible? Reading really only externally produces these reviews which aren't exactly what I'd want to say justifies a meaningful life What am I looking to connect with all of the various subjects and books that I haveamwill read? Why am I even writing about this here in this review about this book? Could this be than just a bloggish egotistically self aware rambling? I'm resigning to the fact that I have no idea how to review this book I think that people should read the whole series one right after another There are interesting little details that I noticed between the first and second books that I would never have noticed if I had waited awhile before reading the next one I'm sure there are the same types of details that I missed in this book One day I'll go back and re read all of them as one giant 2000 page Proustian story about the famous television personality who enters his house one day to find his wife dead Judging from reviews for the first novel in the trilogy this isn't for everyone What I find beautiful and perfect others find annoying and distracting If you need to have stories told linearly and you need the security blanket of an absolutely reliable narrator than this book probably isn't for you In a just literary world this would have come out with much fanfare and would right now be sitting on top of the New York Times bestseller list with Dan Brown's newest romp through the muddled delusions of New Age reader's conspiracies gathering dust in some warehouses waiting to be re pulped into something noble for the poor tree's that had to give up their lives to be used for his drivel; such as toilet paper We don't live in that just world so finding books like this trilogy is just that much awesome because I can read and get the pleasures of loving the book and the elitist high of knowing that I know of something really great that most people don't Viva elitism


  4. tim tim says:

    Why are the books that seep down deepest and saturate our core the very ones that prove most difficult to review? Deleted review after deleted review Will this be the one I finally release with minimal regret? Why do I feel so compelled to write a review for this anyway when I’ve never felt so much terror at the prospect of failure? Because this is one of those books It needs to be read no matter how far my fumbling fingers fall short of doing it justice The Discoverer is a work of art incomplete without it’s precedent parts Alone this last installment of the Jonas Wergeland trilogy is a wonder above But don’t believe those who say it stands alone No Don’t believe it Read them all Then and only then will the unified entirety elevate your reading experience into that otherwise invisible realm of infinite potential that we all know exists just out of reach of the everyday business as usual hell Without books like this I just don’t know what I’d do


  5. notgettingenough notgettingenough says:

    Maybe this whole 3 volumes 1200 pages is a case of beware of low flying sperm I won’t deny having my suspicion that many years from now I may think I failed a basic I testBut it’s now and I don’t think that So this is how to start Go here and listen to this The reason we are starting here is that young boy Jonas thinks if there is one thing to take to the extra terrestrial Vegans to make them think well of human kind it is this Jim Reeves singing ‘I love you because’ And here on youtube we have no less than Jim Reeves singing ‘I love you because’ in Oslo on TV there in 1964 Perfect Listen to it twice The first time you won’t take it seriously but you should It is what this book is about Not to mention while you are listening I have a moment to figure out where to go next Which now that I think about it is near the endA couple of times lately I’ve read books that have hurt me You look at the words on the page and you know you don’t want to read them I’m in Adelaide at the moment and the other day I was with a friend whose husband is in gaol She’s in Australia looking after their four young children He’s in the Californian desert doing six years It isn’t often you listen to somebody’s problems and find that they are from some other world altogether Only to discover upon a little contemplation that in some ways they aren’t any different from your own What’s she to do with this husband who is doing something that happens to people in gaol where they lose their sense of what is important on the outside and become alienated from their loved ones I’m watching that happen to somebody at the moment – it doesn’t after all have to be a physical gaol But what can you do about it? You can only wait heartbroken and hope they come to their senses This is only part of her problem The other part is that she has been waiting for him in every sense for three years and she can’t do that any She has decided she has to have sex And this part of her problem really isn’t any easier than the other Can she do that? And have it just be sex? And still be waiting for this high flying corporate husband who has joined a prison gang and sports a stab wound a black eye and an illegal tattoo at the moment? How do you do this at all let alone with 4 little kids? She’s asking the uestions and I’m thinking can I use my ask the audience card?A couple of days later I am having dinner with a friend The issue has been lying in the air for way too long as to whether we might have sex and finally we take it off the agenda The simple fact is that we are each waiting for somebody It is another day or two later that I read this excruciatingly painful passagechokengtitiktitikchokeng 374And so he hesitated And so he refrained from pulling up her skirt and throwing himself on top of her even when he felt the gentle press of her hands on his back like an invitation He tried to excuse himself to her; he wasn’t ready he said whispered breathlesslyStill though he was afraid – afraid of this lust afraid that one day instead of life a desire to do the right thing he would make do with a sex life It was always there just under the surfaceLater Jonas would contemplate the choice he had made in this and in similar situations Because what if sex was life? And what if the life in which he might attain the ‘lofty goals’ toward which he strove was the life of the nether regions?Where does it come from this sense that it is right to wait? From the most important relationship of his childhood from Karen Mohr Karen who is alone but who might not have been When the young Jonas asks her why she did not take up the invitation to share life with a famous painter she saysp 88‘I did not deem himworthy’ she said That word ‘worthy’ was to become a catchword in Jonas’s life‘Did you ever find someone who was worthy?’ he asked doing his best to pronounce the word with the same gravity as Karen Mohr stretching the vowels and rolling the ‘r’‘No I never did’ And then anticipating Jonas’s next uestion ‘But I have never reproached myself’Jonas could not know that many times in the future his eyes would fill with tears at the memory of her face as she spoke of this She had provided him with a mainstay one that would stand within him forever; she taught him something about the uncompromising nature of loveKaren Mohr had received an offer from a man admired by half the world but had not deemed him worthy Love is no mere bagatelle that’s for sure was Jonas’s first thoughtSo he has this inspiration of a woman in his childhood life and then too he has the astonishing Mr Dehli Lucky lucky boychokengtitiktitikchokeng 216Mr Dehli was an expert climber; he would venture out onto the thinnest branches of a line of reasoning then with a sudden swoop come swinging back to the trunk possibly on a creeper This for Jonas was thrilling than the trapeze artists at the circus Freuently he would sit at his desk following – heart in mouth almost – their master’s exposition of a complex topic with one thought leading to another as he scrawled key words and phrases on the board And just when Jonas was sure that their poor teacher had lost his way completely when Mr Dehli with his hair covered in chalk dust and his bow tie woefully askew was stammering ‘andandand’ suddenly it would come that blessed ‘but’ and a sight of relief would run through the classroom to be followed by the master’s closing triple somersault of an argument which he delivered while circling some of the key words and drawing a couple of connecting lines that made Jonas gasp with surprised understandingI was so envious of Jonas as I read about this perfect teacher I hated every second of school and I’m sitting here thinking why couldn’t I have had a teacher like that? But maybe I did and never realised Looking back to what I wrote in my thoughts on The Naked ApeI spent a year in Marbury a non authoritarian school modelled on Summerhill It was all too weird for words Next time you wonder why I don't know what continent Spain is in or why places that are further away have times that are closer orkeep in mind that my geography text book for the year was The Naked Ape Well I say it was that sort of school like it's to blame for my appalling ignorance of geography If only I'd chosen a normal school instead But truth be told the next year I did choose an ordinary school Methodist Ladies College and blow me down if the maths teacher didn't turn out to be a girl who made us do things like write poetry 'Your maths assignment for today is to write a poem in the style of Jabberwocky' It's moot whether my maths is worse than my geography Sigh I wouldn't mind so much if my poetry was any goodSo maybe I had a Mr Dehli sometime and I simply wasn’t worthy Maybe I do have half an idea it is really only possible to learn in a good way when it is too late Or maybe school is just a completely crap way of educating peopleAs for the other supremely important relationship of his childhood that with Bo Wang Lee well best you read for yourself It is lovelySo there Jonas is right from the time he is a small boy wanting life not to be flat and finding these people Karen and Bo and Mr Dehli who most definitely also believe that life is not flat Eventually he decides to make that his life’s work He decides to reorganise the Dewey classification system into something that has depth Way to go Jonas Are there not two types of people in the world? The ones who are filers and the ones who aren’t? Me I’ve always spent my life surrounded by piles of paper feet deep into which I can dive and find anything at a second’s notice The moment I think about filing anything I’m lost A million times in my life however I’ve wanted to file things and how to do it is an insoluble problem I have thousands of balls of yarn and not a clue how to organise them By brand? Type? Season? Gauge? Colour? It does my head in I have a large collection of antiue costume jewellery Do I sort it by what it is earring here bracelet there? The colour? The composition? When I might wear it? Where I might wear it? Whether I would ever wear it? Mistakes over there? Period? Right now I’m writing recipes on Goodreads and it’s happening again How do I categorise them? According to ingredient type of course season what sort of impact it has on the eater how it is cooked cultural origin? I can’t do it with something as simple as food and Jonas tries to categorise the whole world as deep as he can BrilliantI was lying in bed last night contemplating how lucky I was to have been brought up in a family who didn’t think life was a flat thing My father is dying and it would be such a pity such unlike his life if his death is going to be flat I hope not Just a week ago I was all but irritated with him as he was telling me about how he had been proposing to my mother’s his wife’s sister who has been a nun for merely 50 years Last night I was thinking that yes this is his way of making sure life even now even completely incapacitated and not able to read or write of making sure that life is not flat I should have been gracious than I was about the idea A bigamist who turned a devoted nun away from the Church Certainly not flat that idea that ambitionAnd then later this morning he dies Never a flat life not for one momentHow to classify things Of course most recently these thoughts here I have no idea how to lay them out Not the foggiestI could talk about this book forever What I would like to do while I still have some close sense of it is to post this now not being sure when I will get to of itSorry The booktrilogy is worthy of much


  6. Bradley Bradley says:

    Again these books defy description Each one is multifaceted complex and rich delving deeper and deeper into the life of Jonas the one time superstar of the Norwegian TV series Thinking Big the genius the magical penis the Winner book one with tragedy the Loser book two with hope and book three which I'll call the RevelationNot too different from The Discoverer I'm sure but at least my title actually pokes at a theme that growls at me Not a dragon like in the second book but a loving daughter who finally realizes who and what her father actually wasAnd he was all of these things Every book was accurate but they told the story of Jonas in wildly different ways This one is far from being dark like the first or especially the second It looked to the future It focused on forgiveness On discovery beauty genius and all the tiny interconnected pieces of a life juggled helplessly by one masterful sleight of hand I use these descriptions purposefully as if taken right from the book And perhaps I should have uoted but I'm lazy This book carries us much further from the events in the first book even though it sheds a lot light on why and how and especially what drove Jonas to do what he did No spoilers But learning this one piece of knowledge is a LONG trek and should be experienced by the reader alone It's a transformative book I admit it cut me But alone I don't think it would have cut me unless I had experienced the first two books I feel like I know Jonas better than I know myself It's THAT kind of bookDo I recommend the trilogy?Yes But be aware that it might be a monumental undertaking


  7. Alan Alan says:

    updated Aug 23rd 2012not uite currently reading but about to when my holiday begins tomorrowreading on Woolacombe beach or when it's too wet or foggy in the apartment above W beach So glad I bought my iPOd cuz I needed to listen to 'Rubber Soul' while reading and of course have all the Beatles including most bootlegs on it Even listened to Michelle and What Goes On which I normally skip Of course 'Girl' 'The Word' and especially 'Norwegian Wood' are the most relevant tracks in relation to this book George's 'If I Needed Someone' is my fave at the momentnearly finished well 100 pages to go and might slow down now as holiday and opportunity to read over Enjoying it greatly the first sectio just took my breath away Have a couple of issues with it one is repetition not sure how many times I need to be told that 'Thinking Big' is the greatest programme or set of programmes on earth I think I've gathered that by now I do like the way it circles around and around key events though mirroring his attempts at a new way of thinking And as a librarian I know exactly what he means about the rigid and rather dumb well 19th century Dewey classification system However in a physical library books have to sit somewhere and not everywhere On the net though that's a different matter and it becomes obvious that the net is Jonas's system in action The other slight problem I have is one I'm not sure I can talk about without giving the plot away I'll think about that Proper review coming once I finish these last 100 pages finished a magnificent book a proper end to the trilogy More laterLater Aug 23rd as manyManny havehas said it's difficult to review this great booktrilogy because when you're asked what it's about and I was and spluttered a TV producer Norway you have to say as manny says 'everything' I did I've read several other reviews too M's Not's Karen's etc and feel it's difficult to add much so instead these are notes rather than a proper review what a cop outJonas he’s well informed gifted and full of insight into history and Norway’s place in the world its heroes and their contributions but he’s not terribly bright sometimes when it comes to those closest to him – eg Bo’s revelation comes as a complete shock to him and he misunderstands Margrete his wife although – possibly – she isn’t the easiest of characters to understand He accepts his punishment for this he feels his obtuseness did kill his wife and therefore he is guilty of murder Besides he uses the time inside like a monk would to contemplate and research it all sounds very nice in fact But overall the book is dazzling brilliant and like the juggler Bo keeps so many balls in the air you have to admire the skill The overall theme – that we are still evolving maybe most of all in ‘love’ the way love works and our understanding of it to the extent of evolving a new organ here new kinds of lungs maybe a new sense – is one fairly common from the 60s and 70s Doris Lessing for example at the end of her Martha uest series and ‘Briefing for a Descent into Hell’; or the hippy movement But Kjaerstad excels in bringing it to life on both an epic and a personal scale both world wide and intimate The idea is that if layers of meaning andor imagery of all kinds could be apprehended and comprehended at the same time this would be the key to the next stage of mankind Through an ability to watchlistenread things simultaneously we would reach the point of becoming new kinds of beings We are too compartmentalised like the Dewey sytem or the way subjects are divided up in our education system we need to combine and experiment to see what will happen like the teacher who combines two elements in a test tube and then introduces a third the catalyst to show how something new will result so we need to do that in life – combine the unexpected go beyond the predicatbleHere so much is brought together – crystals butterflies aliens semen maps music breath fjords history childhood escapades and embarrassments and love and nurture and eccentric aunts and unclesbut then here everyone is eccentric uniue the Beatles and Bach archery and TV uiz shows architecture and deck chairsSome great moments perhaps the best being when his daughter watches all of her father's programmes simulataneously on screens that surround her and feels they connect to one another to make something new and change the viewer not just momentarlily but for lifeWergeland also realises that the new internet generation may already be on the path to this new way of thinkingbeing because of the way the net organises knowledge constantly linking through to other areas regardless of subject This has been mooted as a bad thing giving us a wide but shallow knowledge pool instead of the depth a narrower approach can give us but Jonas seems to see the good in it if used properly as with TV He or maybe Kjaerstad also warns against complacency; is always attempting to chafe and invigorate his countyrman in particular and us in general eg the admonishments on the use of Stressless chair in front of the telly a bad use of the mediumThis third book overall is about reconciliation knowledge and love Jonas has learned from his mistakes at last and is entering a new phase It is like one of Shakespeare's late plays in its scope and generosity So thanks Manny et al for putting me onto a book set of books I'd have otherwise missed


  8. Elaine Elaine says:

    Reading The Discoverer is like getting the gift of perceiving a person's inner dialogue that never ending discourse running through our minds changing as we see or smell or hear something different recall events and people get ideas which travel to other ideas all the while praising criticizing blaming feel guilt The result is an exhilirating roller coaster ride not only inside Jonas's head but also of the scenery he is mentally or actually viewing Kjaerstad the author or rather Jonas makes Norway sound so glorious I had to restrain myself from going online and buying a plane ticket Jonas also describes vividly both architecture and art in Norway He speaks of great Norwegian painters as if they were on a par with Rembrandt Michaelangelo Titian Chagall all the Western greats The problem is that I at least never heard of any of them but when I do get on that plane to Oslo I will run to all the museums and public buildings he describes with such admiration love and detail Or maybe I'll get on a ship to see the magnificent fjords he waxes elouent aboutBecause the novel is about thinking it is not chronologically arranged Nor is it arranged according to the different narrators You will be inside Jonas's head and then in the next paragraph see an I or we which is clearly not Jonas This person allows us to see Jonas as a human being or see something else Just as our inner dialogue goes back to certain subjects again and again so does Jonas's Something he spoke of earlier suddenly appears again in his own words still but with a detail added or omitted or a comment added Surprisingly this is not intrusive It heightens our sense of seeing into his head and feeling what he feelsThe American reader will find the Norway centric vision in this book uite a change from the British American Umwelt we so take for granted both in our thoughts and our reads Here we are privy to Jonas's constant boasting and criticizing of Norwegian society his casual and serious mention of Norwegian historical characters His boasting takes the form as mentioned above of claiming a greater place in art than is usually accorded to Norway by Europeans and Americans but also he thinkks that Norwegian scenery is the most stupendously beautiful in the world Once in a while a sneaking thought entered my mind methinks he protesteth too much But then I recall from speaking both with Swedish and Norwegian colleagues and friends that in Scandinavia Norway was the backward country untiil the 20th century Because Sweden once governed Norway perhaps the Swedes traditionally have looked down on the Norwegians One example not from the book a Norwegian scholar told me that when Swedish speakers are on Norwegian television there are no subtitles for the Swedish Norwegians understand Swedish just fine Indeed the Swedes should be able to understand the Norwegians as easily A Swedish friend of mine told me that on Scandinavian Airlines the stewards speak their own Scandinavian language Danish Swedish or Norwegian and the passengers have no problem understanding any of them However when Norwegian speakers are on Swedish television the Swedes use subtitles Linguists have long known that people will fail to understand a language which should be mutually comprehensible with one's own if they feel that the other speaker is inferior Another instance of this is that German immigrants after WWI told me they couldn't understand Yiddish when they heard it spoken but Yiddish speakers have no problem understanding Germans Younger Germans however tell me that they understand Yiddish as if it were English or GermanForgive this digression There are two other matters Jonas's central uest and this translation As for Jonas the thread that runs through this dense and populated novel is his uest for a system of classifying knowledge He learns about the Dewey Decimal System while still a boy It bothers him that knowlege is so segmented this way Rather he wants a system that will capture the relations between various disciplines He rightly see that all knowledge is interrelated As a linguist I have to know about the structure of different languages but also about anatomy physics neurochemistry social groupings anthropology psychology psychiatry history biology and literature I may have left a few fields out Jonas eventually creates a landmark television series on various topics but with the last show suddenly bringing together strands from all the preceding as a unified whole Oh would that such a series really existed Well maybe it does I don't know a thing about Norwegian TV The uest does not dominate the novel There are events and characters and music and memories loves guilts all the things that made Jonas JonasA word about Barbara Haveland's translation It is clear that she has learned British English not American but that's not the problem The problem is that I strongly suspect that she has nowhere near a native speaker's competence in English I do have friends who have settled in the US whose native language is not English but their English is near native speaker competence Haveland's is good but not that good She misuses words such as calling a kitchen range a cooker and speaking of a marked trail as being blue flashed She obviously meant the trail was blazed with blue paint As they are here in New England as well She also awkwardly repeats the set phrase Not for nothing as a sentence opener freuently apparently unaware of the collouial nature of this usage It stands out from the rest of the proseThe biggest error she makes is an entire long passage in which she uses would constantly Upon first reading it didn't make sense because Jonas is talking about a girl he just met and the passage is a description of behavior that could occur only if they were married or living together So I read it again and saw the problem I don't know modern Norwegian but I did study Old Norse and Old English Old Norse vyldaand Old English wold were cognates forms of two languages that come from one parent language In Old Norse and in Old English these forms were subjunctive That is they were used when someone was saying that the things being talked about were fanciful or wouldn't necessarily ever happen I suspect that Modern Norwegian has kept this meaning for vylda or whatever its current form is Older English literature often has would used in this sense However in today's English would is also used to mean a habitual action in the past that no longer occurs in the present For instance I could say of my son Rick that He would tear his pants whenever we got dressed up or He would always be up in a tree Oh we can use would to mean what Haveland apparently did if we preface it with a perhaps or an if as in Perhaps he would come in for dinner and she would have it all set and they would sit down and talk about the day's events On its own however it sounds like habitual past action Of course such a an error leading to a misreading makes one doubt the translation as a whole However the whole does hang together I found no other instance in which a passage is apparently mistranslated and even with this one I could figure out what was meant Unfortunately only three of Kjaerstad's novels have been translated into English and I don't know yet who translated the other two But I'll find out I wouldn't miss reading them


  9. Madhuri Madhuri says:

    Discoverer is a remarkable book one I got myself completely taken with It is the final part of a trilogy and though reading the last part of the trilogy before you have read the preuels may not be the prescribed order the book stands alone on its own so that it does not become a handicapThe book is about Jonas Wergeland an elusive character who is a TV genius responsible for some remarkable shows on Norwegian television He comes back from a trip one day to find his wife dead He is tried for the murder and he confesses to the crime The fall of a celebrity is much loved by people and this fall brings about two books on Jonas' life One is written by Kamala Varma – a famous Indian author under whom Jonas is now working as a secretary and another is a biography 'staged' by Jonas's sister Rakel – these two books form part 1 and 2 of this trilogy In the third and the final part we hear Jonas' own voice giving his version of the story Though there is another narrator interspersed with Jonas someone whose identity is not revealed till the end like the other two books but a narrator who is easy to guessThis account is remarkable in its reminiscence Jonas' account moves from one memory to another through a tenuous link and he has not finished narrating one story before he reaches the other and suddenly you find yourself into tunnels of stories You have to keep track of which tunnel you are in and then when you get out there is the other original unfinished story which is capsuled in another one The stories themselves are so full of thoughts and ideas and you wonder if Jonas could have lived through so many thoughts when he was 12 or 7The book is about discovery – of self of past of memories and also of those beautiful regions of Norway which Jonas and his team is traversing on a ship Jonas seems to be a boy wonder of sorts but also seems to have so many moments of failing disappointment which constantly plague him about his self worth What I have read so far seems like a coming of age story though the part where the 'coming' happens has remained elusive Perhaps it happens with Magrete's death But before that happens there is much meditation – on films on music on sports and all the things a growing up is wound up in


  10. Bettie Bettie says:

    Description Jonas Wergeland has served his sentence for the murder of his wife Margrete He is a free man again but will he ever be free of his past?The third volume of Jan Kjærstad’s award winning trilogy finds Jonas aboard the Voyager a small boat exploring the reaches of the great Sognefjord in Western Norway Also on board are four young people engaged in a multi media project to chart all aspects of the fjord – its geography people and history But like the space probe the boat is named for Jonas’s personal journey of discovery reaches far beyond the usual confines of time or space With all the breathtaking prowess of a master juggler Jan Kjærstad throws episode after episode from Jonas Wergeland’s life into the air and holds them suspended like planets in the solar system And the reader once again is drawn into Wergeland’s universe and taken on a journey – this time with his daughter as guide – to discover finally the truth about his life and what led to the death of his wife Opening Behold this man Behold this man as he feels three tugs on the rope and slowly after smiling uncertainly proceeds to traverse to edge out onto those dauntingly airy galleries Behold this man as he inches across the rock face; see how with the caution of the novice he feels his way forward using all of his limbs his whole body in fact before shifting his weight from one foot to the otherStoren and the Slingsby glacierShould of got to this concluding episode eons ago but better late than never5 The Seducer5 The ConuerorCR The Discoverer


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  1. karen karen says:

    as the kids say OMFGi am sitting here stunned BY A BOOK it's like all of a sudden everything in my life makes sense although it was probably a good idea to take a break to read under the dome right in the middle of this trilogy i was uite frankly getting a little sick of jonas wergeland and the pause was useful in giving me some much needed space from his claustrophobic life plus the contrast certainly did not hurt kjaerstad it's just that jonas wergeland is a character packed to the tits sometimes with tits with anecdotes and events and prophecies and weighted moments and perfectly stated sentences and adoring masses it was just too full of stuff and its not that i want to read about his downtime but it is truly exhausting to read so much thick and meaningful prose where every sentence has weight and resonance it is wonderful but it makes the head spin with excitement and emotional overload a little goes a long wayand by now in the trilogy you have become accustomed to the flow of ideas; one story leaching into another in a concrete than stream of consciousness but still unexpected association kind of way but oh god so many parts of this book the longest most woefully nostalgic kiss of all time margrete's relationship to reading and books as objects missed opportunities samarkand so many moments of yes discoverybut i still need someone to tackle writing that chronology even with all the contradictions which are necessary because of the nature of these three books maybe some kind of three pronged timeline just to see it all at once this is very packed storytelling like proust but less willfully verbose less languid and overtly erotic at the end i was creating distractions mostly involving goodreadscomjust so i wouldn't get to the end too uickly there are so many bookmarks in this copy so many uotes i was going to transfer into this review but i just can't because again and i seriously regret what i am about to say this book needs to be discovered by the reader it is the culmination of two book's worth of reading that becomes mostly crystallized in this concluding work and it is so fucking worth it there are some jaw droppingly good moments in this third one this is an astonishing book i want to copy pages 230 232 and just read them every day for examplei started typing every uote i liked out onto this but they lose their impact when taken out of the whole no one goes to the museum to look at a dinosaur's shin bonea seriously good book will flash with energy that reminds you of other things you like; layers and layers of association and self reflection and this one for me had moments of following the movie infinite jest and one big time tessangel clare moment even though tess is my least favorite hardy parts of it still have his genius and the echo in this book is heartbreaking and perfect and made me wish books could make me cry and i don't know what greg is talking about but buddha is a character with as much screen time as johnny horne in twin peaks or michael k williams in the hulk okay that's not fair michael k williams in miracle at st anna sheesh i kept wondering if i was missing something but no i am noti am just wagging my little doggy tail right now and not really saying anything is it okay to just use review space to gush?i have nothing to say about this book because it says everythingplease have your own trilogy monthcome to my blog

  2. Manny Manny says:

    Oppdageren The Discoverer in English is the third and concluding volume of the trilogy that starts with Forføreren Since the three volumes form a tightly knit whole it makes most sense to review the whole series which is one of the most powerful moving original novels I've read in years It's staggeringly inventive and daring and it's not just displaying post modernist cleverness for its own sake uite the contrary The book has a burning desire to reach out to you touch you and change your life forever It's very rare to find something like thisThe rest of this review is available elsewhere the location cannot be given for Goodreads policy reasons After rereading the seriesIt is a masterpiece The beginning is mysterious and enticing; the middle difficult and painful; the ending extraordinarily powerful and movingA recurring image which is presented in many different forms is Māyā the veil of illusion At one point Jonas who is applying to architecture school gives a presentation on his favorite part of Oslo He arranges it in three semi transparent layers The outermost one shows the town as it is today Behind it and clearly visible you can see the town as he remembers it before it was brutally remodelled in the 60s And if you look carefully you can see just a hint of the third layer a strange temple like building uite unlike anything in the real OsloAs usual the novel is referring to itself Every book has a surface and most worthwhile books have something underneath that surface which you can see if you're paying any attention But under both of these one can sometimes catch a glimpse of the true book the book the author wanted to write but was unable to realise due to his mortal limitations The true version of this book is visible with uite unusual clarity It's a trick but it's a wonderful awe inspiring trickTo conclude for other readers who wondered what they looked like en sitronsommerfugl og en dagpåfugløye en admiral og en neslesommerfugl After the third readingWell no doubt about the masterpiece part Some uestions which that so far hypothetical person who's going to write the first serious critical study of the Jonas Wergeland trilogy might want to think aboutview spoiler Just as in Dante there's clearly a deep plan He throws out innumerable hints Jonas's interest in architecture the seuence in book 1 where the NN women talk about the relationships between the different episodes of Å tenke stort the seuence near the end of book 3 where Kristin plays all the episodes of the series simultaneously But what is the plan? What is the relationship with Dante? It seems impossible that it can be as simple as one book in Dante corresponding to one book in Kjærstad For example volume 3's core structure must be modelled on the Paradiso; both the chapter headings which mark the progress of the Voyager spaceship through the solar system and the movement towards increasingly lofty and abstract themes But at the same time there are some episodes which can't belong in the Paradiso; for example the lyrical seuence with the Garden of Eden must be from the Purgatario and in general Jonas is gradually purging his sin Is it possible that one book of Kjærstad corresponds to two books of Dante? In which case book 1 must be ParadisoInferno book 2 InfernoPurgatorio book 3 PurgatorioParadiso It seems to fit But what is the point of this unusual arrangement? As so often I feel I can almost identify it but not uite What do the beautiful central images of book 3 mean? They're even harder to interpret than the ones from the earlier books The Voyager spaceship and its golden disc The airplane with the red markings on its wings Sognefjorden The empty room or landscape with the tiny figure that gives it its meaning The skipping rope The widening circle of ripples The deck chair on the beach The buried city The string of pearls The crystal prisms The four butterflies hide spoiler

  3. Greg Greg says:

    Back in early summer I started reading this trilogy In my head I had a perfect plan I gave each of the first two books roughly a week to be read and when I finished the second book the third one would be arriving in the store I'd finish The Conuerer and that day or maybe the next copies of The Discoverer would rise up from the stores basement I'd buy the book and read it immediately Like all perfect plans this one went to shit The Discoverer was delayed in coming out by a few months so by the time it did come out the details of the first two books were a little hazy On the plus side Karen got the dude from Open Letter to send me a free copy of the book after she told him how much I was looking forward to it In my review for The Seducer I mentioned Henryk Górecki's Symphony No 3 Symphony of Sorrowful Songs I'm mentioning it again because the structure of the narrative constantly reminds me the first 8 minutes of that musical work Both are composed of beautifully simple strands that seamlessly weave in and out of each other brining a particular theme or story to the forefront before allowing it to be replaced by another In themes from the book it's like juggling or the patterns of an oriental rug but I like my Górecki analogy better What to say about a book that you don't want to give any details away about?Sadly I live my life for moments like reading this series of books I could say that I read constantly and am always looking for new books and authors that I haven't heard of yet hoping to find books like this one The ones that are 'throw yourself down the stairs' great There is no real way to go out and just read these books though and miss all the chaff It's all the chaff that helps make the great books so great I don't know if that makes any sense In another musical analogy from my life if I hadn't spent so much time listening to shitty heavy metal music and groaning about the awful pretentiousness of bands like Led Zepplin and other 'classic rock' bands the effect of putting the Ramones Blitzkrieg Bop on for the first time wouldn't have been as life shattering as it was This book is nothing like the Ramones and now I'm thinking that I might be belittling the book by even mentioning them here In my life some other book would be like the Ramones and this along with books like Magnetic Fields and Infinite Jest would be some later band or type of music that I would have never gotten to if I had stayed stuck in some degenerate phase and now almost twenty years later still only listened to Metallica and Slayer Returning to the idea at the start of the last paragraph I spend lots of time in my life on a search for something as good as this to discover something great and then immediately afterwards the search goes on I've done this with music and with books and ideas I think that it's some kind of sick compulsion and it's not necessarily healthy When I think of how much time is given to this pursuit the hours that turn into days and months and probably eventually into years of my life with my nose in various books I know that I could accomplish so much if I could redirect the reading energy into something else; something tangible? Reading really only externally produces these reviews which aren't exactly what I'd want to say justifies a meaningful life What am I looking to connect with all of the various subjects and books that I haveamwill read? Why am I even writing about this here in this review about this book? Could this be than just a bloggish egotistically self aware rambling? I'm resigning to the fact that I have no idea how to review this book I think that people should read the whole series one right after another There are interesting little details that I noticed between the first and second books that I would never have noticed if I had waited awhile before reading the next one I'm sure there are the same types of details that I missed in this book One day I'll go back and re read all of them as one giant 2000 page Proustian story about the famous television personality who enters his house one day to find his wife dead Judging from reviews for the first novel in the trilogy this isn't for everyone What I find beautiful and perfect others find annoying and distracting If you need to have stories told linearly and you need the security blanket of an absolutely reliable narrator than this book probably isn't for you In a just literary world this would have come out with much fanfare and would right now be sitting on top of the New York Times bestseller list with Dan Brown's newest romp through the muddled delusions of New Age reader's conspiracies gathering dust in some warehouses waiting to be re pulped into something noble for the poor tree's that had to give up their lives to be used for his drivel; such as toilet paper We don't live in that just world so finding books like this trilogy is just that much awesome because I can read and get the pleasures of loving the book and the elitist high of knowing that I know of something really great that most people don't Viva elitism

  4. tim tim says:

    Why are the books that seep down deepest and saturate our core the very ones that prove most difficult to review? Deleted review after deleted review Will this be the one I finally release with minimal regret? Why do I feel so compelled to write a review for this anyway when I’ve never felt so much terror at the prospect of failure? Because this is one of those books It needs to be read no matter how far my fumbling fingers fall short of doing it justice The Discoverer is a work of art incomplete without it’s precedent parts Alone this last installment of the Jonas Wergeland trilogy is a wonder above But don’t believe those who say it stands alone No Don’t believe it Read them all Then and only then will the unified entirety elevate your reading experience into that otherwise invisible realm of infinite potential that we all know exists just out of reach of the everyday business as usual hell Without books like this I just don’t know what I’d do

  5. notgettingenough notgettingenough says:

    Maybe this whole 3 volumes 1200 pages is a case of beware of low flying sperm I won’t deny having my suspicion that many years from now I may think I failed a basic I testBut it’s now and I don’t think that So this is how to start Go here and listen to this The reason we are starting here is that young boy Jonas thinks if there is one thing to take to the extra terrestrial Vegans to make them think well of human kind it is this Jim Reeves singing ‘I love you because’ And here on youtube we have no less than Jim Reeves singing ‘I love you because’ in Oslo on TV there in 1964 Perfect Listen to it twice The first time you won’t take it seriously but you should It is what this book is about Not to mention while you are listening I have a moment to figure out where to go next Which now that I think about it is near the endA couple of times lately I’ve read books that have hurt me You look at the words on the page and you know you don’t want to read them I’m in Adelaide at the moment and the other day I was with a friend whose husband is in gaol She’s in Australia looking after their four young children He’s in the Californian desert doing six years It isn’t often you listen to somebody’s problems and find that they are from some other world altogether Only to discover upon a little contemplation that in some ways they aren’t any different from your own What’s she to do with this husband who is doing something that happens to people in gaol where they lose their sense of what is important on the outside and become alienated from their loved ones I’m watching that happen to somebody at the moment – it doesn’t after all have to be a physical gaol But what can you do about it? You can only wait heartbroken and hope they come to their senses This is only part of her problem The other part is that she has been waiting for him in every sense for three years and she can’t do that any She has decided she has to have sex And this part of her problem really isn’t any easier than the other Can she do that? And have it just be sex? And still be waiting for this high flying corporate husband who has joined a prison gang and sports a stab wound a black eye and an illegal tattoo at the moment? How do you do this at all let alone with 4 little kids? She’s asking the uestions and I’m thinking can I use my ask the audience card?A couple of days later I am having dinner with a friend The issue has been lying in the air for way too long as to whether we might have sex and finally we take it off the agenda The simple fact is that we are each waiting for somebody It is another day or two later that I read this excruciatingly painful passagechokengtitiktitikchokeng 374And so he hesitated And so he refrained from pulling up her skirt and throwing himself on top of her even when he felt the gentle press of her hands on his back like an invitation He tried to excuse himself to her; he wasn’t ready he said whispered breathlesslyStill though he was afraid – afraid of this lust afraid that one day instead of life a desire to do the right thing he would make do with a sex life It was always there just under the surfaceLater Jonas would contemplate the choice he had made in this and in similar situations Because what if sex was life? And what if the life in which he might attain the ‘lofty goals’ toward which he strove was the life of the nether regions?Where does it come from this sense that it is right to wait? From the most important relationship of his childhood from Karen Mohr Karen who is alone but who might not have been When the young Jonas asks her why she did not take up the invitation to share life with a famous painter she saysp 88‘I did not deem himworthy’ she said That word ‘worthy’ was to become a catchword in Jonas’s life‘Did you ever find someone who was worthy?’ he asked doing his best to pronounce the word with the same gravity as Karen Mohr stretching the vowels and rolling the ‘r’‘No I never did’ And then anticipating Jonas’s next uestion ‘But I have never reproached myself’Jonas could not know that many times in the future his eyes would fill with tears at the memory of her face as she spoke of this She had provided him with a mainstay one that would stand within him forever; she taught him something about the uncompromising nature of loveKaren Mohr had received an offer from a man admired by half the world but had not deemed him worthy Love is no mere bagatelle that’s for sure was Jonas’s first thoughtSo he has this inspiration of a woman in his childhood life and then too he has the astonishing Mr Dehli Lucky lucky boychokengtitiktitikchokeng 216Mr Dehli was an expert climber; he would venture out onto the thinnest branches of a line of reasoning then with a sudden swoop come swinging back to the trunk possibly on a creeper This for Jonas was thrilling than the trapeze artists at the circus Freuently he would sit at his desk following – heart in mouth almost – their master’s exposition of a complex topic with one thought leading to another as he scrawled key words and phrases on the board And just when Jonas was sure that their poor teacher had lost his way completely when Mr Dehli with his hair covered in chalk dust and his bow tie woefully askew was stammering ‘andandand’ suddenly it would come that blessed ‘but’ and a sight of relief would run through the classroom to be followed by the master’s closing triple somersault of an argument which he delivered while circling some of the key words and drawing a couple of connecting lines that made Jonas gasp with surprised understandingI was so envious of Jonas as I read about this perfect teacher I hated every second of school and I’m sitting here thinking why couldn’t I have had a teacher like that? But maybe I did and never realised Looking back to what I wrote in my thoughts on The Naked ApeI spent a year in Marbury a non authoritarian school modelled on Summerhill It was all too weird for words Next time you wonder why I don't know what continent Spain is in or why places that are further away have times that are closer orkeep in mind that my geography text book for the year was The Naked Ape Well I say it was that sort of school like it's to blame for my appalling ignorance of geography If only I'd chosen a normal school instead But truth be told the next year I did choose an ordinary school Methodist Ladies College and blow me down if the maths teacher didn't turn out to be a girl who made us do things like write poetry 'Your maths assignment for today is to write a poem in the style of Jabberwocky' It's moot whether my maths is worse than my geography Sigh I wouldn't mind so much if my poetry was any goodSo maybe I had a Mr Dehli sometime and I simply wasn’t worthy Maybe I do have half an idea it is really only possible to learn in a good way when it is too late Or maybe school is just a completely crap way of educating peopleAs for the other supremely important relationship of his childhood that with Bo Wang Lee well best you read for yourself It is lovelySo there Jonas is right from the time he is a small boy wanting life not to be flat and finding these people Karen and Bo and Mr Dehli who most definitely also believe that life is not flat Eventually he decides to make that his life’s work He decides to reorganise the Dewey classification system into something that has depth Way to go Jonas Are there not two types of people in the world? The ones who are filers and the ones who aren’t? Me I’ve always spent my life surrounded by piles of paper feet deep into which I can dive and find anything at a second’s notice The moment I think about filing anything I’m lost A million times in my life however I’ve wanted to file things and how to do it is an insoluble problem I have thousands of balls of yarn and not a clue how to organise them By brand? Type? Season? Gauge? Colour? It does my head in I have a large collection of antiue costume jewellery Do I sort it by what it is earring here bracelet there? The colour? The composition? When I might wear it? Where I might wear it? Whether I would ever wear it? Mistakes over there? Period? Right now I’m writing recipes on Goodreads and it’s happening again How do I categorise them? According to ingredient type of course season what sort of impact it has on the eater how it is cooked cultural origin? I can’t do it with something as simple as food and Jonas tries to categorise the whole world as deep as he can BrilliantI was lying in bed last night contemplating how lucky I was to have been brought up in a family who didn’t think life was a flat thing My father is dying and it would be such a pity such unlike his life if his death is going to be flat I hope not Just a week ago I was all but irritated with him as he was telling me about how he had been proposing to my mother’s his wife’s sister who has been a nun for merely 50 years Last night I was thinking that yes this is his way of making sure life even now even completely incapacitated and not able to read or write of making sure that life is not flat I should have been gracious than I was about the idea A bigamist who turned a devoted nun away from the Church Certainly not flat that idea that ambitionAnd then later this morning he dies Never a flat life not for one momentHow to classify things Of course most recently these thoughts here I have no idea how to lay them out Not the foggiestI could talk about this book forever What I would like to do while I still have some close sense of it is to post this now not being sure when I will get to of itSorry The booktrilogy is worthy of much

  6. Bradley Bradley says:

    Again these books defy description Each one is multifaceted complex and rich delving deeper and deeper into the life of Jonas the one time superstar of the Norwegian TV series Thinking Big the genius the magical penis the Winner book one with tragedy the Loser book two with hope and book three which I'll call the RevelationNot too different from The Discoverer I'm sure but at least my title actually pokes at a theme that growls at me Not a dragon like in the second book but a loving daughter who finally realizes who and what her father actually wasAnd he was all of these things Every book was accurate but they told the story of Jonas in wildly different ways This one is far from being dark like the first or especially the second It looked to the future It focused on forgiveness On discovery beauty genius and all the tiny interconnected pieces of a life juggled helplessly by one masterful sleight of hand I use these descriptions purposefully as if taken right from the book And perhaps I should have uoted but I'm lazy This book carries us much further from the events in the first book even though it sheds a lot light on why and how and especially what drove Jonas to do what he did No spoilers But learning this one piece of knowledge is a LONG trek and should be experienced by the reader alone It's a transformative book I admit it cut me But alone I don't think it would have cut me unless I had experienced the first two books I feel like I know Jonas better than I know myself It's THAT kind of bookDo I recommend the trilogy?Yes But be aware that it might be a monumental undertaking

  7. Alan Alan says:

    updated Aug 23rd 2012not uite currently reading but about to when my holiday begins tomorrowreading on Woolacombe beach or when it's too wet or foggy in the apartment above W beach So glad I bought my iPOd cuz I needed to listen to 'Rubber Soul' while reading and of course have all the Beatles including most bootlegs on it Even listened to Michelle and What Goes On which I normally skip Of course 'Girl' 'The Word' and especially 'Norwegian Wood' are the most relevant tracks in relation to this book George's 'If I Needed Someone' is my fave at the momentnearly finished well 100 pages to go and might slow down now as holiday and opportunity to read over Enjoying it greatly the first sectio just took my breath away Have a couple of issues with it one is repetition not sure how many times I need to be told that 'Thinking Big' is the greatest programme or set of programmes on earth I think I've gathered that by now I do like the way it circles around and around key events though mirroring his attempts at a new way of thinking And as a librarian I know exactly what he means about the rigid and rather dumb well 19th century Dewey classification system However in a physical library books have to sit somewhere and not everywhere On the net though that's a different matter and it becomes obvious that the net is Jonas's system in action The other slight problem I have is one I'm not sure I can talk about without giving the plot away I'll think about that Proper review coming once I finish these last 100 pages finished a magnificent book a proper end to the trilogy More laterLater Aug 23rd as manyManny havehas said it's difficult to review this great booktrilogy because when you're asked what it's about and I was and spluttered a TV producer Norway you have to say as manny says 'everything' I did I've read several other reviews too M's Not's Karen's etc and feel it's difficult to add much so instead these are notes rather than a proper review what a cop outJonas he’s well informed gifted and full of insight into history and Norway’s place in the world its heroes and their contributions but he’s not terribly bright sometimes when it comes to those closest to him – eg Bo’s revelation comes as a complete shock to him and he misunderstands Margrete his wife although – possibly – she isn’t the easiest of characters to understand He accepts his punishment for this he feels his obtuseness did kill his wife and therefore he is guilty of murder Besides he uses the time inside like a monk would to contemplate and research it all sounds very nice in fact But overall the book is dazzling brilliant and like the juggler Bo keeps so many balls in the air you have to admire the skill The overall theme – that we are still evolving maybe most of all in ‘love’ the way love works and our understanding of it to the extent of evolving a new organ here new kinds of lungs maybe a new sense – is one fairly common from the 60s and 70s Doris Lessing for example at the end of her Martha uest series and ‘Briefing for a Descent into Hell’; or the hippy movement But Kjaerstad excels in bringing it to life on both an epic and a personal scale both world wide and intimate The idea is that if layers of meaning andor imagery of all kinds could be apprehended and comprehended at the same time this would be the key to the next stage of mankind Through an ability to watchlistenread things simultaneously we would reach the point of becoming new kinds of beings We are too compartmentalised like the Dewey sytem or the way subjects are divided up in our education system we need to combine and experiment to see what will happen like the teacher who combines two elements in a test tube and then introduces a third the catalyst to show how something new will result so we need to do that in life – combine the unexpected go beyond the predicatbleHere so much is brought together – crystals butterflies aliens semen maps music breath fjords history childhood escapades and embarrassments and love and nurture and eccentric aunts and unclesbut then here everyone is eccentric uniue the Beatles and Bach archery and TV uiz shows architecture and deck chairsSome great moments perhaps the best being when his daughter watches all of her father's programmes simulataneously on screens that surround her and feels they connect to one another to make something new and change the viewer not just momentarlily but for lifeWergeland also realises that the new internet generation may already be on the path to this new way of thinkingbeing because of the way the net organises knowledge constantly linking through to other areas regardless of subject This has been mooted as a bad thing giving us a wide but shallow knowledge pool instead of the depth a narrower approach can give us but Jonas seems to see the good in it if used properly as with TV He or maybe Kjaerstad also warns against complacency; is always attempting to chafe and invigorate his countyrman in particular and us in general eg the admonishments on the use of Stressless chair in front of the telly a bad use of the mediumThis third book overall is about reconciliation knowledge and love Jonas has learned from his mistakes at last and is entering a new phase It is like one of Shakespeare's late plays in its scope and generosity So thanks Manny et al for putting me onto a book set of books I'd have otherwise missed

  8. Elaine Elaine says:

    Reading The Discoverer is like getting the gift of perceiving a person's inner dialogue that never ending discourse running through our minds changing as we see or smell or hear something different recall events and people get ideas which travel to other ideas all the while praising criticizing blaming feel guilt The result is an exhilirating roller coaster ride not only inside Jonas's head but also of the scenery he is mentally or actually viewing Kjaerstad the author or rather Jonas makes Norway sound so glorious I had to restrain myself from going online and buying a plane ticket Jonas also describes vividly both architecture and art in Norway He speaks of great Norwegian painters as if they were on a par with Rembrandt Michaelangelo Titian Chagall all the Western greats The problem is that I at least never heard of any of them but when I do get on that plane to Oslo I will run to all the museums and public buildings he describes with such admiration love and detail Or maybe I'll get on a ship to see the magnificent fjords he waxes elouent aboutBecause the novel is about thinking it is not chronologically arranged Nor is it arranged according to the different narrators You will be inside Jonas's head and then in the next paragraph see an I or we which is clearly not Jonas This person allows us to see Jonas as a human being or see something else Just as our inner dialogue goes back to certain subjects again and again so does Jonas's Something he spoke of earlier suddenly appears again in his own words still but with a detail added or omitted or a comment added Surprisingly this is not intrusive It heightens our sense of seeing into his head and feeling what he feelsThe American reader will find the Norway centric vision in this book uite a change from the British American Umwelt we so take for granted both in our thoughts and our reads Here we are privy to Jonas's constant boasting and criticizing of Norwegian society his casual and serious mention of Norwegian historical characters His boasting takes the form as mentioned above of claiming a greater place in art than is usually accorded to Norway by Europeans and Americans but also he thinkks that Norwegian scenery is the most stupendously beautiful in the world Once in a while a sneaking thought entered my mind methinks he protesteth too much But then I recall from speaking both with Swedish and Norwegian colleagues and friends that in Scandinavia Norway was the backward country untiil the 20th century Because Sweden once governed Norway perhaps the Swedes traditionally have looked down on the Norwegians One example not from the book a Norwegian scholar told me that when Swedish speakers are on Norwegian television there are no subtitles for the Swedish Norwegians understand Swedish just fine Indeed the Swedes should be able to understand the Norwegians as easily A Swedish friend of mine told me that on Scandinavian Airlines the stewards speak their own Scandinavian language Danish Swedish or Norwegian and the passengers have no problem understanding any of them However when Norwegian speakers are on Swedish television the Swedes use subtitles Linguists have long known that people will fail to understand a language which should be mutually comprehensible with one's own if they feel that the other speaker is inferior Another instance of this is that German immigrants after WWI told me they couldn't understand Yiddish when they heard it spoken but Yiddish speakers have no problem understanding Germans Younger Germans however tell me that they understand Yiddish as if it were English or GermanForgive this digression There are two other matters Jonas's central uest and this translation As for Jonas the thread that runs through this dense and populated novel is his uest for a system of classifying knowledge He learns about the Dewey Decimal System while still a boy It bothers him that knowlege is so segmented this way Rather he wants a system that will capture the relations between various disciplines He rightly see that all knowledge is interrelated As a linguist I have to know about the structure of different languages but also about anatomy physics neurochemistry social groupings anthropology psychology psychiatry history biology and literature I may have left a few fields out Jonas eventually creates a landmark television series on various topics but with the last show suddenly bringing together strands from all the preceding as a unified whole Oh would that such a series really existed Well maybe it does I don't know a thing about Norwegian TV The uest does not dominate the novel There are events and characters and music and memories loves guilts all the things that made Jonas JonasA word about Barbara Haveland's translation It is clear that she has learned British English not American but that's not the problem The problem is that I strongly suspect that she has nowhere near a native speaker's competence in English I do have friends who have settled in the US whose native language is not English but their English is near native speaker competence Haveland's is good but not that good She misuses words such as calling a kitchen range a cooker and speaking of a marked trail as being blue flashed She obviously meant the trail was blazed with blue paint As they are here in New England as well She also awkwardly repeats the set phrase Not for nothing as a sentence opener freuently apparently unaware of the collouial nature of this usage It stands out from the rest of the proseThe biggest error she makes is an entire long passage in which she uses would constantly Upon first reading it didn't make sense because Jonas is talking about a girl he just met and the passage is a description of behavior that could occur only if they were married or living together So I read it again and saw the problem I don't know modern Norwegian but I did study Old Norse and Old English Old Norse vyldaand Old English wold were cognates forms of two languages that come from one parent language In Old Norse and in Old English these forms were subjunctive That is they were used when someone was saying that the things being talked about were fanciful or wouldn't necessarily ever happen I suspect that Modern Norwegian has kept this meaning for vylda or whatever its current form is Older English literature often has would used in this sense However in today's English would is also used to mean a habitual action in the past that no longer occurs in the present For instance I could say of my son Rick that He would tear his pants whenever we got dressed up or He would always be up in a tree Oh we can use would to mean what Haveland apparently did if we preface it with a perhaps or an if as in Perhaps he would come in for dinner and she would have it all set and they would sit down and talk about the day's events On its own however it sounds like habitual past action Of course such a an error leading to a misreading makes one doubt the translation as a whole However the whole does hang together I found no other instance in which a passage is apparently mistranslated and even with this one I could figure out what was meant Unfortunately only three of Kjaerstad's novels have been translated into English and I don't know yet who translated the other two But I'll find out I wouldn't miss reading them

  9. Madhuri Madhuri says:

    Discoverer is a remarkable book one I got myself completely taken with It is the final part of a trilogy and though reading the last part of the trilogy before you have read the preuels may not be the prescribed order the book stands alone on its own so that it does not become a handicapThe book is about Jonas Wergeland an elusive character who is a TV genius responsible for some remarkable shows on Norwegian television He comes back from a trip one day to find his wife dead He is tried for the murder and he confesses to the crime The fall of a celebrity is much loved by people and this fall brings about two books on Jonas' life One is written by Kamala Varma – a famous Indian author under whom Jonas is now working as a secretary and another is a biography 'staged' by Jonas's sister Rakel – these two books form part 1 and 2 of this trilogy In the third and the final part we hear Jonas' own voice giving his version of the story Though there is another narrator interspersed with Jonas someone whose identity is not revealed till the end like the other two books but a narrator who is easy to guessThis account is remarkable in its reminiscence Jonas' account moves from one memory to another through a tenuous link and he has not finished narrating one story before he reaches the other and suddenly you find yourself into tunnels of stories You have to keep track of which tunnel you are in and then when you get out there is the other original unfinished story which is capsuled in another one The stories themselves are so full of thoughts and ideas and you wonder if Jonas could have lived through so many thoughts when he was 12 or 7The book is about discovery – of self of past of memories and also of those beautiful regions of Norway which Jonas and his team is traversing on a ship Jonas seems to be a boy wonder of sorts but also seems to have so many moments of failing disappointment which constantly plague him about his self worth What I have read so far seems like a coming of age story though the part where the 'coming' happens has remained elusive Perhaps it happens with Magrete's death But before that happens there is much meditation – on films on music on sports and all the things a growing up is wound up in

  10. Bettie Bettie says:

    Description Jonas Wergeland has served his sentence for the murder of his wife Margrete He is a free man again but will he ever be free of his past?The third volume of Jan Kjærstad’s award winning trilogy finds Jonas aboard the Voyager a small boat exploring the reaches of the great Sognefjord in Western Norway Also on board are four young people engaged in a multi media project to chart all aspects of the fjord – its geography people and history But like the space probe the boat is named for Jonas’s personal journey of discovery reaches far beyond the usual confines of time or space With all the breathtaking prowess of a master juggler Jan Kjærstad throws episode after episode from Jonas Wergeland’s life into the air and holds them suspended like planets in the solar system And the reader once again is drawn into Wergeland’s universe and taken on a journey – this time with his daughter as guide – to discover finally the truth about his life and what led to the death of his wife Opening Behold this man Behold this man as he feels three tugs on the rope and slowly after smiling uncertainly proceeds to traverse to edge out onto those dauntingly airy galleries Behold this man as he inches across the rock face; see how with the caution of the novice he feels his way forward using all of his limbs his whole body in fact before shifting his weight from one foot to the otherStoren and the Slingsby glacierShould of got to this concluding episode eons ago but better late than never5 The Seducer5 The ConuerorCR The Discoverer

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